XD in .45GAP

[giggitygiggity]

I found what looks to be good deal on an XD in .45GAP. The person wants $325 for the pistol. It has about a box of ammo though it. It is the 4" service model with three magazines. Is this a good deal?

How do you like the XD? I am a big Glock fan, but am willing to pick up an XD for a good price. In particular, please comment on the 4" .45GAP service model. I realize that Springfield no longer makes GAP's. Thanks.

 

[Quoheleth]

My bigger concern would be the cartridge over the gun. The platform is great. The cartridge was a solution looking for a problem (many think the only problem was how to get Glock's name on a cartridge AND a gun).

My 2 cents is that before you buy the gun, check for ammo availability (on-line and local) and price. If you can find it and can live with the prices, it's a good price on a good platform.

Q

 

[bigfatdave]

ore you buy the gun, check for ammo availability and price. If you can find it and can live with the prices, it's a good price on a good platform.

I agree with Quoheleth, and was about to post the same thing ... if you want to get into .45GAP, then the XD platform is pretty solid.
Keep in mind that those 3 magazines might be the only 3 you ever see is S.A.inc has discontinued the production of the gun (just something to think about)

 

[jmr40]

There is a reason it is cheap. If you want a 45 GAP it is a good deal. The good news is that if you don't like it, you can still sell it cheap and not lose money.

I'd pass, but it could be a good deal for YOU.

 

[David E]

Ammotogo has several varieties of GAP ammo.

 

[arizona98tj]

As much as I enjoy the XD platform (I have 3 of them), I would let this one go by. The ammo will only become more difficult (read expensive) to find as time goes on. If you want a used XD in 45 ACP, I'm sure there are some to be found.

 

[railroader]

I wouldn't get it unless you reload.I quess if you have trouble getting ammo you could cut down 45 acp cases to load. Here are cheap gap mags in case you get it. http://www.cdnninvestments.com/spxd45gapfu9.html One other thing you can find new xd9 for around $400 and they will have a warranty which I'm not sure about if you buy an xd used. That's what I paid for mine in the last year and I got a holster mag holders and 5 mags because of a promotion.

 

[Mot45acp]

Can you swap it to any other calibers with a barrel/magazine change?

 

[C0untZer0]

It's nice to have a cartridge named after your company.

Colt has some, S&W has some.

I think though that a lot of people don't know what the "G" stands for in GAP.

I think it's funny that Springfield Armory makes a gun chambered in GAP and even Glock is having a rough time selling the GAP pistols.

At least once every 30 days there is a post on Glocktalk "Is the 45 GAP dead ???"

 

[postalnut25]

I have a XD45 GAP and an XD45 ACP, and I much perfer the GAP. There is enough of a size difference that I notice it. I have smaller hands, and the grip on the XD GAP is friendlier to a wider variety of hands.

 

[Mike J]

I have an XD-40 & it is a good gun. As far as the cartridge goes I would be inclined to agree with Quoheleth.

 

[SabbathWolf]

I prefer standard calibers.
The price seems OK for the gun, but I'd rather just stick with a standard 45acp for numerous reasons.
I never bought into the 357Sig thing either, even though the guns themselves can be quite nice.

 

[Quiet]

Keep in mind that those 3 magazines might be the only 3 you ever see is S.A.inc has discontinued the production of the gun (just something to think about)

FYI.
Springfield Armory does not manufacture any of the XD/XDM pistols.
Springfield Armory is just the exclusive importer of the XD/XDM pistol.
HS Produkt is still producing the HS-2000 in .45GAP, Springfield Armory choses not to continue importation of them.

Unless, it's a 1911 from the Springfield Armory Custom Shop, all handguns sold by Springfield Armory are manufactured by another company and imported into the USA.

 

[Warp]

Do you specifically want .45GAP? Have you held, or fired, that pistol in .45 ACP to compare how the grip feels?

Do you reload?

 

[coalman]

Nice gun. Novelty caliber - think 10mm and .357sig - that would have already caught on if it ever was. Too bad IMO as I think the GAP is the better .45 semi-auto. Discounted price rightly reflects demand. I'd pass.

 

[hentown]

GA State Patrol uses Glocks in .45GAP. I just hope none of those guys do any shooting at our local range. I'd hate to get that brass mixed up with my real .45 acp brass.

 

[David E]

The funniest think about the GAP, where Glock wanted their name on a cartridge, refuses to put the proper name of calibers on their guns that other gun companies brought out.

To wit; Glock calls the .357 Sig the ".357 Auto."

The .40 Smith & Wesson, already shortened to .40 S&W, is called ".40 Auto."

Likewise, both the .380 ACP and .45 ACP (ACP stands for "Automatic COLT Pistol") are called ".380 Auto" and ".45 Auto."

It's interesting to note that all of those calibers, including the .357 Sig, are doing better than the .45 Short, um, I mean, GAP

 

[Buck Kramer]

Buy it, you can swap out the mags and barrel for 9mm, .40, 45ACP, or .357 sig.

 

[dsb1829]

The price is good if it is LNIB. The GAP is neither good nor bad. It is harder to come by but IME it is easier to find GAP ammo than 10mm. If I can even find 10mm it is watered down. The GAP often has a few varieties in stock and all are pushing 45acp velocity/power. I reload, so I really could care less about off the shelf fodder. 45GAP brass is readilly available and all other components are common.

Of those who knock the GAP I would bet money less than 10% have actually fired one. IMO it is a unique round. It has less snap/recoil than 9mm, yet lays down 45 power (this is subjective,but owning a G19 and G38 I do make the comparison).

 

[David E]

I personally like the GAP. I own a Glock 37 and 38

The window for the GAP closed in 2004 when the AWB expired. Had it been renewed, the situation would be: your handgun can hold no more than 10 rds in the magazine, regardless of caliber. Would you choose 10 rds of 9mm, .40 or .45?

Hopefully, that window will remain closed.....

 

[Warp]

Even where the 10 round limit is still in play if you want your conceal carry gun to hold 10 rounds you may select the Glock 30 or 30SF. 10+1 of .45 ACP in a package almost identical in size to the Glock models 19, 23 and 32.

 

[coalman]

The window for the GAP closed in 2004 when the AWB expired. ...

Very true. Glock was late to the party with innovation as per usual. To make it worse they ran the fatter .45 slide on the GAP instead of the 9mm/.40sw slide. Plus, the G38 only holds 8 rounds (some cram 9 in) instead of 10 like the G30 manages. These were a deal-killers IMO. IMO, Glock made mistake after mistake after mistake with the GAP. After being proactive with R&D, marketing and deals with LE to get on the .40sw bandwagon early, and enjoying huge success, they pretty much got lazy and stopped being timely, relavent or creative IMO. The Gen4 backstraps are a joke IMO. The XDm and M&P, like 'em or not, show real efforts at innovation while attempting to stay relevant with the times. I digress....

 

[Walking Dead]

@DavidE Smith & Wesson does the same thing. The M&P adds show it available in .357 auto too.

 

[Warp]

Lots of companies do it. Some people just like to grab onto anything they can in an attempt to criticize that which they do not like.

 

[David E]

Even where the 10 round limit is still in play if you want your conceal carry gun to hold 10 rounds you may select the Glock 30 or 30SF. 10+1 of .45 ACP in a package almost identical in size to the Glock models 19, 23 and 32.

When the choice is 10 rds of 9mm, .40 or .45 in essentially the same size package, many will choose the .45. One thing the GAP allows is using the same grip size as the 9mm/.40. The G-30 grip is larger. This matters to some.

When the duty-size choice is 17 rds of 9mm, 15 rds of .40 or 10 rds of .45 GAP, most will pick one of the first two.