Yard work revolver

Buckeye63 said:
We probably all have a handgun we carry while doing chores around the homestead
Mine is 90% of the time is my Charter Arms in 40S&W .. 180gr HST
100% reelable and has a good trigger
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My first reaction when reading your post was that you needed a snake gun. Literally. You used the word "homestead". Having spent my youth in the outdoors, that's how my brain got wired (note: TOO much sun = skin cancers; I've had several cut out). Where I grew up people carried snake guns for snakes. Revolvers shoot doughnut patters due to rifling, but if you lead-up the barrel's grooves with soft lead bullets, then handgun shot-shell patterns get less and less toroid.

"... 40S&W .. 180gr HST 100% reelable and has a good trigger ..."

For self-defense against human aggressors, your choice of cartridge is great. And hey, it's difficult to jam a revolver. It sounds like you like your revolver's feel and performance, so double-great.

The wife and I are older. An older son of ours takes out our trash at night. Neighbors one night yell at him, "We're going to call the police!" They made some other threats. They thought he was a burglar. Glad they didn't open fire. Later, we and our son laughingly discussed how others could mistake our son for a felon. He's a little bit big, wide shoulders, is always wearing a fedora, has a scraggly beard, walks with a bad limp, ... Hmmm, maybe he IS evil looking ????

Only at night would I drop a small revolver or chopped 9mm in a pocket -- whichever is handiest. It's rare when I do that. If I must answer the door, I've got something stuffed in a back pocket. Not opening the door at night.

Maybe at night if I've heard gunfire, or some of the dopers are partying a bit too hardy, and I simply MUST go outside, I'll take a handgun with me. There was a home invasion less than a mile away, but that was gang-bangers who hit the wrong house. The invaders were from a city, not our small town. Decades back, I guy tried to weedle his way into our house -- I sure wouldn't open the door, had a pump shotgun w/round in chamber, told him to get lost. Had he kicked our door, he would have developed some very serious health issues. Same true if anyone kicked my door. It'll be my .357 carbine or a pump shotgun w/buckshot.

Maybe I'm insufficiently paranoid. In the state where we live now, we once had a dealer living next to us ... that crew moved away. One dilapidated house near us got very nicely renovated. Another mean crew of neighbors moved away. I just couldn't stay friends with that guy, then he got sent to prison (again, kept getting attitude, his problem not mine). Rather nice tiny town in an agricultural county this place. Saw a nutcase walking down our road today, that's nothing -- looked like he wasn't far from getting his dirt blanket, anyway. I feel safe, but then weapons have always been part of me, always have one near, no fear. They were always around when I was a kid and over the decades, I've gone through tens of thousands of rounds, i.e. brain wired this way = feel safe ... maybe too safe. I'm old, doesn't much matter now.

Again, that revolver in 40 S&W is neat, seems like an excellent choice on your part. I didn't know about Charter Arms' auto cartridge selection. Thus, your post was very enlightening. "You learn something every day." Thanx much!

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My CA in 45acp holds the cases just fine.

My 40 caliber revolver is a Taurus. It's a fun caliber for revolvers.

Our neighborhood has gone downhill because of those darned hippies. Drug dealers move in and out like firing pins. Just last week a pizza delivery driver ran over an opossum. It's only safe to do yardwork with a flame projector mounted to the front of a tractor. Makes mowing the yard faster, too.
 
stonebuster said:
It's hard to know where a safe place is these days. I live in a nice semi rural neighborhood and we've got our share of violent crimes and drug addicted people in our town. A couple days ago, nearby, a naked 38 yr old man approached a child at 2:30pm, assaulted responding officer & tried to take his gun away resulting in a discharge of the gun. Another troubled young man strangled & drowned his mother last month in a nice town park by the river then called the cops. Said he did it to quiet the demons. A 36 yr old across the street died of a drug overdose Memorial weekend this year. A 32 year old living next door to us just went to prison for rape, strangulation, 1st degree assault, threatening with a firearm on his girlfriend and multiple other felonies. I sometimes carry an SP101 2.25" 357 when doing yard work. We also have a 350+ pound black bear who visits or yard often.
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Just read in the national news about a fellow who was just going out to his garage at night (without insufficient light). He was crawling around in there trying to find the misplaced object when a black bear gnaws down on his head. He received one really bad gash to the top of his scalp. Gosh ... uhhh ... surprise, surprise!

In my home state (in S.Appalachia), we lived in one neighborhood where a family had an apple orchard. Only one mountain range over, there was a bear sanctuary region. Everybody knows where this story is going! Yep, there was this one black bear who would raid their orchard. This bruin was a tad bit larger than a squirrel (by a few hundred pounds), so it would snap the limbs right out of the apple trees when climbing them. A bear is a bear. Can't blame it for being a bear. Bears do what bears do. We move in on their territory, not visa versa. Over the decades, I've hiked & hunted those mountain forests constantly. It is profoundly rare to see a bear. They hear you or smell you a mile away then cut country -- you're not going to see them. Bear hunters have their work cut out for them. Good, I'm not hunting bears. Bears are hairy, fat, lazy critters who mind their own business ... Sounds alot like me. Not killing my own.

Centuries ago when I was a very young man, I got a summer job with the Forestry Service. National forest trash cans are put down into the ground or the above-ground "cans" get made of steel. They are welded rectangular strong steel containers with heavy lids atop, then they are chained in place. If bears are raiding your trash, then your trash cans have to be up to the task. A regular metal trash can might as well be made out of tinfoil. To a 350 lb. bear, that's nothing. That's a squeezable food tube. Keep your trash in a heavy-duty container, then on trash day, transfer that into regular trash cans/containers for the trash collection employees to gather. It's a lot of bother, yet ... .
 
currently i don’t have a yard that needs my attention. thinking back to days past i think that my ruger bearcat, or a similar 22lr single-action revolver, would suit my own particular needs. ultra-safe/reliable. load it with quiets or shorts, stingers or standards, snakeshot, a combination as likely needed. single-action makes it deliberately accurate. if i were likely to face roaming large predators, especially feral dogs, a centerfire revolver gets my nod.
 
starling said:
How the extraction on your Pit Bull (sticky?)? They were a little glitchy when they first came out with that ability to go without moonclips. I figure Charter has gotten it dialed in by now. Seems like if its going to show up it will be in the 40S&W the most. Ive been patiently waiting for Charter to get that extraction system dialed in before getting serious about a purchase.
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Actually mine are incredibly smooth.. but after a bunch of rounds.. it has definitely smoothed out
 
Home carry is different for a whole lot of different reasons. Some may carry a 38 with rat shot 1st and bullets in the rest of the chambers. That’s what I used to do when I lived in prime copperhead country. Wierd thing is that I always moved past the shot and used a bullet through the noggin. It worked in theory. Then I moved. Same mindset, but new set of realistic risks. No more copperheads but BIG timber rattlers and nasty packs of coyotes and coy-dogs. Went to 9mm full sized gun for higher capacity. Then I moved again and no worries about snakes that slither but the 2 legged serpents that were around. Back to a 38, then a pocket nine. Now I have moved again, and I don’t carry at home, but I have arms available should a need arise. All bedrooms are upstairs so AR will work well for the stairs, and downstairs there are a couple 9mms handy.

All this to make the argument that “if I need to carry at home, I’ll move” seem silly. It’s very seldom that the biggest threat at home is an intruder. Snakes, bears, moose, dogs, big cats, monkeys, iguanas… wherever you are has its own challenges. Equip yourself to overcome the challenges so that when you face them, your prepared mentally, physically, and properly equipped with hardware.
 
I say do whatever make you feel safe. My wife and I have lived in the same home since 1988 and never encountered a problem that would require a firearm. Doesn't mean it won't happen but does mean I don't need to carry when in my yard!
 
Old Hobo said:
My first reaction when reading your post was that you needed a snake gun. Literally. You used the word "homestead". Having spent my youth in the outdoors, that's how my brain got wired (note: TOO much sun = skin cancers; I've had several cut out). Where I grew up people carried snake guns for snakes. Revolvers shoot doughnut patters due to rifling, but if you lead-up the barrel's grooves with soft lead bullets, then handgun shot-shell patterns get less and less toroid.

"... 40S&W .. 180gr HST 100% reelable and has a good trigger ..."



Maybe I'm insufficiently paranoid. In the state where we live now, we once had a dealer living next to us ... that crew moved away. One dilapidated house near us got very nicely renovated. Another mean crew of neighbors moved away. I just couldn't stay friends with that guy, then he got sent to prison (again, kept getting attitude, his problem not mine). Rather nice tiny town in an agricultural county this place. Saw a nutcase walking down our road today, that's nothing -- looked like he wasn't far from getting his dirt blanket, anyway.

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Gee, where do you live? I kinda want to mark it on my places not to visit.
 
doubleh said:
Not me. If I needed to be armed doing yard work I would move to a safer place.
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It's not that I feel like I have to be armed when doing yardwork, I just literally stay armed at all times since I have no way of knowing when or where I'll need one.

Also since I've averaged more than 5 copperheads a year in my yard(that I see) and I have dogs and children, I try to make sure I'm armed when doing yard work.
 
Old Hobo said:
Just read in the national news about a fellow who was just going out to his garage at night (without insufficient light). He was crawling around in there trying to find the misplaced object when a black bear gnaws down on his head. He received one really bad gash to the top of his scalp. Gosh ... uhhh ... surprise, surprise!

In my home state (in S.Appalachia), we lived in one neighborhood where a family had an apple orchard. Only one mountain range over, there was a bear sanctuary region. Everybody knows where this story is going! Yep, there was this one black bear who would raid their orchard. This bruin was a tad bit larger than a squirrel (by a few hundred pounds), so it would snap the limbs right out of the apple trees when climbing them. A bear is a bear. Can't blame it for being a bear. Bears do what bears do. We move in on their territory, not visa versa. Over the decades, I've hiked & hunted those mountain forests constantly. It is profoundly rare to see a bear. They hear you or smell you a mile away then cut country -- you're not going to see them. Bear hunters have their work cut out for them. Good, I'm not hunting bears. Bears are hairy, fat, lazy critters who mind their own business ... Sounds alot like me. Not killing my own.

Centuries ago when I was a very young man, I got a summer job with the Forestry Service. National forest trash cans are put down into the ground or the above-ground "cans" get made of steel. They are welded rectangular strong steel containers with heavy lids atop, then they are chained in place. If bears are raiding your trash, then your trash cans have to be up to the task. A regular metal trash can might as well be made out of tinfoil. To a 350 lb. bear, that's nothing. That's a squeezable food tube. Keep your trash in a heavy-duty container, then on trash day, transfer that into regular trash cans/containers for the trash collection employees to gather. It's a lot of bother, yet ... .
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What I need to do is MacGyver a cage to put the large plastic refuse /recycling cans in like I've seen in upstate New York.
 
I shove a XD mod 2 3.3"in .45acp into my pocket to take the garbage out. I usually shove a LCP into my pocket when I go out to the shop.

Lately I haven't carried while gardening. Swinging around the chainsaw (electric) makes me feel safe enough.
 
We've had a couple fairly recent home-invasions, or at least intrusions in which robbery was the goal, while homeowners were out in their yards doing actual yard work. Hmm.

I also live in a woods with at least one active cougar still prowling in the area, numerous agressive coyotes and the occasional grouchy bear (a ton of wild berries along with fruit trees on my property as well as the neighbors). But, if I were the worrying type, I'd think more about the marauding groups of homeless tweakers (apparently not earning enough income holding up cardboard signs at the corner of the Wal-Mart parking exits) camping in the area and just maybe some character with a grudge against me from my previous life.

So yeah, I keep a little something on the belt holding up my shorts as I cruise my acreage on my John Deere... The Buffalo Bore .357 180-grain hardcast is hard to beat...
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Old Dog said:
We've had a couple fairly recent home-invasions, or at least intrusions in which robbery was the goal, while homeowners were out in their yards doing actual yard work. Hmm.

I also live in a woods with at least one active cougar still prowling in the area, numerous agressive coyotes and the occasional grouchy bear (a ton of wild berries along with fruit trees on my property as well as the neighbors). But, if I were the worrying type, I'd think more about the marauding groups of homeless tweakers (apparently not earning enough income holding up cardboard signs at the corner of the Wal-Mart parking exits) camping in the area and just maybe some character with a grudge against me from my previous life.

So yeah, I keep a little something on the belt holding up my shorts as I cruise my acreage on my John Deere... The Buffalo Bore .357 180-grain hardcast is hard to beat...
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Well yeah I would too if I were you. Keep your dog with you as a spotter. Looks like you have a German Shepard. I would worry about the bear and cougar more than people. Ya never know these days though. Be Safe
 
WestKentucky said:
Home carry is different for a whole lot of different reasons. Some may carry a 38 with rat shot 1st and bullets in the rest of the chambers. That’s what I used to do when I lived in prime copperhead country. Wierd thing is that I always moved past the shot and used a bullet through the noggin. It worked in theory. Then I moved. Same mindset, but new set of realistic risks. No more copperheads but BIG timber rattlers and nasty packs of coyotes and coy-dogs. Went to 9mm full sized gun for higher capacity. Then I moved again and no worries about snakes that slither but the 2 legged serpents that were around. Back to a 38, then a pocket nine. Now I have moved again, and I don’t carry at home, but I have arms available should a need arise. All bedrooms are upstairs so AR will work well for the stairs, and downstairs there are a couple 9mms handy.

All this to make the argument that “if I need to carry at home, I’ll move” seem silly. It’s very seldom that the biggest threat at home is an intruder. Snakes, bears, moose, dogs, big cats, monkeys, iguanas… wherever you are has its own challenges. Equip yourself to overcome the challenges so that when you face them, your prepared mentally, physically, and properly equipped with hardware.
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Killer Iguanas now???!!! When did this happen? My biggest threat at home is my kids! They just walk by stuff and it ends up broken.

Copperheads are common hear. As long as I keep the grass short and the property clean they go hang out at the neighbors or elsewhere. I use to kill them before we had kids but now we either relocate them or chase them off (fast suckers). All our eastern rat snakes seem to keep them away. I see one or two a year now since draining out the swamp in our backyard.

I see coyotes at night when im running at night all the time. They dont do anything here. Skunks can be a problem but as long as you leave them alone and keep them from getting under the house they dont seem to hurt anything. Loose pitbulls are probably the biggest threat but I have not seen one in a couple years and when I did they ran off.

No Killer Iguanas or Monkeys thank the Lord! Wife can get a little crazy once in a while but me and the kids just hide until the storm blows over. I dont carry at home. I do carry when I run late at night or early in the morning though. Most people dont mess with runners but it has happened. I carry mace (Halt 2) because I dont want to have to shoot someones dog.

Id say the biggest threat when you are at home is the stuff thats been put in your food from the grocery store. People not looking all that healthy these days. I wont swim in the ocean and its unlikely I will ever go to Florida again without an AK slung over my shoulder.

Im normally armed when Im out with the kids but they are very polite to adults and most people are nice back when you are nice to them. Real life is a lot different then what the internet or TV portrays. At least around these parts.
 
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