BHPshooter
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This thread is really making my blood boil.
Some points:
Read the DOI: The only legitimate purpose of Government is to protect the rights of citizens. Not SOME rights, all of them.
The Government does not have rights. It has powers. Powers that WE THE PEOPLE gave it. That's right, WE give the gov't power, the gov't does NOT give us our Rights.
Ladybug, how long has it been since you read the bill of rights in its intirety, Preamble and all? The preamble states that it was created as a "fail safe" in case the gov't got out of hand, that certain things were not to be meddled with. The gov't has gone WAAAAY beyond that point, ignoring the second, fourth, ninth, and tenth amendments.
So, as a bill of RIGHTS and not GOVERNMENT POWERS, what would that mean? Does the Constitution not say that it is the law of the land? Would that not mean that if the states didn't tow the line, that it would be illegal? That's one of the reasons the 14th was ratified. The states weren't obeying the Law of the Land. The 14th made them.
The second, in its entirety: A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
I'm sorry, but ladybug's argument that the second only applies to the Federal Legislature is completely Constitutionally infirmed. Once again, the only LEGITIMATE purpose of ANY government, whether federal, state, or local, is to protect the rights of the citizens. The right to strap on a sidearm is a RIGHT. INALIENABLE, at that. It doesn't matter if you decide that you don't like your .357 and want to pack a howitzer, it's your right, and it is being trampled.
Now, say what you want about the guy, but he's got guts to publicly exercise his right, even if it is illegal, so openly. Now, when his right gets trampled so blatantly, it is THE JOB OF THE MILITIA to keep the government in line!!!
Of course, I don't agree with what he did after the trial, but that's a whole 'nother ball game.
I won't even get into how bad the Judiciary is overstepping their bounds.
Maybe this is a little reminder of how complacent and lazy Americans are becoming. Nobody cares about freedom anymore.
I am not ashamed to say, I CARE and if my rights were so blatantly trampled as this mans, I would come out shooting.
tyranny.
Wes
P.S. Quartus, check your PMs.
Some points:
Read the DOI: The only legitimate purpose of Government is to protect the rights of citizens. Not SOME rights, all of them.
The Government does not have rights. It has powers. Powers that WE THE PEOPLE gave it. That's right, WE give the gov't power, the gov't does NOT give us our Rights.
Ladybug, how long has it been since you read the bill of rights in its intirety, Preamble and all? The preamble states that it was created as a "fail safe" in case the gov't got out of hand, that certain things were not to be meddled with. The gov't has gone WAAAAY beyond that point, ignoring the second, fourth, ninth, and tenth amendments.
So, as a bill of RIGHTS and not GOVERNMENT POWERS, what would that mean? Does the Constitution not say that it is the law of the land? Would that not mean that if the states didn't tow the line, that it would be illegal? That's one of the reasons the 14th was ratified. The states weren't obeying the Law of the Land. The 14th made them.
The second, in its entirety: A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
I'm sorry, but ladybug's argument that the second only applies to the Federal Legislature is completely Constitutionally infirmed. Once again, the only LEGITIMATE purpose of ANY government, whether federal, state, or local, is to protect the rights of the citizens. The right to strap on a sidearm is a RIGHT. INALIENABLE, at that. It doesn't matter if you decide that you don't like your .357 and want to pack a howitzer, it's your right, and it is being trampled.
Now, say what you want about the guy, but he's got guts to publicly exercise his right, even if it is illegal, so openly. Now, when his right gets trampled so blatantly, it is THE JOB OF THE MILITIA to keep the government in line!!!
Of course, I don't agree with what he did after the trial, but that's a whole 'nother ball game.
I won't even get into how bad the Judiciary is overstepping their bounds.
Maybe this is a little reminder of how complacent and lazy Americans are becoming. Nobody cares about freedom anymore.
I am not ashamed to say, I CARE and if my rights were so blatantly trampled as this mans, I would come out shooting.
tyranny.
Wes
P.S. Quartus, check your PMs.