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...article. I do not even know where to begin... :barf:
New Glock .357 makes cops day

New Glock .357 makes cops' day

By CHRIS WHIPPLE

Friday, August 12, 2005

Elizabeth City police officers were at the city firing range this week getting acquainted with the department's new standard-issue firearm, the Glock .357.

The department is upgrading from Sig Sauer handguns to the new Glock because the latter weapon reportedly is safer for users. It also packs a bigger punch while increasing accuracy.

Sgt. Mike Boone and Lt. Steve Terrill were at the firing range preparing officers to qualifications on the weapons this week.

Although much smaller, the .357 is marketed by Glock as the equal to the Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum, made famous by Clint Eastwood in the movie "Dirty Harry." The .357 Magnum was at one time the largest caliber police weapon available.

The added firepower of the Glock .357 made Officer April Manlangit's day.

"It makes a bigger hole," Manlangit joked, when asked why she likes the new firearm.

Manlangit is a 2004 graduate of the College of The Albemarle's Basic Law Enforcement Training program.

Firearms preferences are largely subjective, Manlangit added, but, to her, the new guns are more user-friendly. After hammering the core of a paper target five times in a row, Manlangit said she is impressed by the accuracy of the new handgun, as well.

Boone said the Glock .357 helps improve accuracy by fitting more completely inside the hand – instead of riding up high above the webbing of the thumb. This lowered axis is what allows the handgun to be both more powerful and more accurate.

"It's not top-heavy," Boone said. "That helps tremendously with follow-up accuracy."

The primary safety feature of the weapon is contained in the trigger. There is a smaller, initiating trigger that runs along the finger groove of the actual trigger. This "trigger-trigger" must be pulled back before the actual trigger can move. Design features like that help prevent accidental discharge, Boone said.

Unlike most handguns sold commercially, the Glock .357 does not have a conventional safety switch. Neither did the Sauers. Police weapons come out of the holster ready to fire, Boone said.

Aside from the "trigger-trigger," the Glock .357 is actually one of the simplest guns currently manufactured, Boone said. There are only 37 different parts, and including the ammunition magazine.

To help mitigate the gun's powerful recoil, the polymer frame of the Glock .357 is designed to flex slightly. But it still jumps a lot. And there is no mistaking the sound of the new guns for fireworks. They are a lot louder and a lot more percussive than the old Sauers.

The department received the weapons in July, but training on the new firearms was held up by a shipping delay on the new holsters. Officers must be trained and tested before they can use any new firearm and the qualification process involves drawing the weapon from a holster and firing at a target.

To qualify on the new weapons, officers will be required to draw the weapon and fire from standing, kneeling and prone positions, with their weak as well as their strong hand, from distances of three to 25 yards. About 20 officers had qualified by Thursday afternoon, with another 30 or so either still practicing or waiting to be tested Boone said.
 
Looks like basic ignorance on the part of both the reporters and the cops. To wit:

"It makes a bigger hole," Manlangit joked, when asked why she likes the new firearm.

Makes a bigger hole than what exactly? The article doesn't say, but it sounds as if the department dropped the P225/226 in 9mm for the Glock .357 SIG. Both feature .355 caliber bullets if I am not mistaken.

Then again, most cops aren't enthusiasts and most reporters have repeatedly proven to be useless concerning firearms characteristics and issues.
 
Glocks are safer than Sigs? :barf:

Just look at the stats for police NDs. Betcha more of them are Glocks than anything else. "I'm the only one in this room responsible enough to handle a Glock FOATY!"
 
Reading that article made my sides hurt from the laughter.

If the reporter was accurately reporting what the cops said, the Elizabeth City cops are dumb as a box of rocks.
 
Just look at the stats for police NDs. Betcha more of them are Glocks than anything else. "I'm the only one in this room responsible enough to handle a Glock FOATY!"
Yes, but how many departments issue Glock pistols as opposed to Sigs?
 
Kind of ironic that they're going from Sigs to Glocks chambered for .357SIG

Kind of stupid, too if you ask me.

Rick

NOTE: I only say that because of their stated reasoning. Not to denigrate Glocks!
 
The inhumaity of it.... Dirty Harry carried a 44 mag, but said the 357 mag was a "sensible weapon" as I recall. I don't recall the movie it was in, but was when someone asked him why he carried a cannon......
 
it also bothers me that people will think that the glocks are chambered in .357 magnum, which is wrong - that are chambered in .357 SIG...

"It makes a bigger hole," Manlangit joked, when asked why she likes the new firearm.

if thier SIGs were 9mm's, the hole is the same.. if thier sigs were .45's the hole is smaller... and if there hole WAS bigger, i sure as hell wouldn't joke about it, i'd state it as one of the pro's of their new gun...

....

~TMM
 
so whats the real reason?

who the heck goes from a sig to a glock?

maybe they figure they can toss them in the dishwasher
 
I thought Dirty Harry made the .44 magnum famous, not the .357 magnum.

And going from Sig to Glock is taking one step backwards, IMO.
 
The department is upgrading from Sig Sauer handguns to the new Glock because the latter weapon reportedly is safer for users. It also packs a bigger punch while increasing accuracy.

"Upgrading" from Sig to the "Safer" Glock?

Oh boy, the fur's gonna fly now :neener:
 
Humourous for me

because my friends in law enforcement, in Germany, were thrilled a few months ago, when they got rid of their Glocks, and replaced them with Sig-Sauers...The Glocks were pretty much universally hated over there...'course they get to use H&K MP5s on a regular basis....
 
I believe it was PT Barnum that said there is one born every minute...


And as far as what Harry Callahan said about his baby compared to the 357 mag is that he has seen the magnum ricochet off of windshields before...


I am not even going to say anything about the safety upgrade....

mebbe their Safety officers were former BP employees?
 
No he said the .357 is a good weapon, he's seen .38s bounce off windshields.

But good lord that article was so chock full of bad info... "trigger trigger" what the heck?
 
"It's not top-heavy," Boone said. "That helps tremendously with follow-up accuracy."

Hmmmm....steel slide on TOP of a polymer frame.....must be that new super dense uranium polymer..... :banghead:
 
I disagree, I didn't have to read this. I knew the media was retarded long ago.
 
[Inspector Moore] Hey, Callahan, how come you carry that cannon? Most cops are happy with a .38,maybe a .357...[/Inspector Moore]

[Inspector Callahan] Because it kills what it hits.[/Inspector Callahan]

Tyne Daly played Inspector Moore, assigned to work with Clint Eastwood's Inspector Callahan in "The Enforcer". Callahan's reaction to finding out she was his new partner; 'Swell.' :D
 
Glocks are safer than Sigs?

Just look at the stats for police NDs. Betcha more of them are Glocks than anything else. "I'm the only one in this room responsible enough to handle a Glock FOATY!"
"Upgrading" from Sig to the "Safer" Glock?
I am not even going to say anything about the safety upgrade....

Tell ya what: I will take a glock 17 and a Sig 226 and set them both on a shelf in my gun safe, and we will see which one accidentally discharges first. I have a feeling we are going to be in for a long wait. Perhaps these hamfisted cops need to learn how to use their weapons and take responsibility for ND's instead of blaming inanimate objects. I guess its not just HCI and MMM that like to blame things on guns instead of the people holding them.... :rolleyes:
 
Glocks are safer than Sigs?
Well trained LEO's are safer than poorly trained LEO's.
"It makes a bigger hole," Manlangit joked, when asked why she likes the new firearm.
Perfect mentality for a cop.
The primary safety feature of the weapon is contained in the trigger. There is a smaller, initiating trigger that runs along the finger groove of the actual trigger. This "trigger-trigger" must be pulled back before the actual trigger can move. Design features like that help prevent accidental discharge, Boone said.
Put your finger on a glock trigger...Boom. Put your finger on a Sig trigger...Boom :confused:
Boone said the Glock .357 helps improve accuracy by fitting more completely inside the hand – instead of riding up high above the webbing of the thumb. This lowered axis is what allows the handgun to be both more powerful and more accurate.
So if I hold my hand lower on the grip it will have less power? How does that work?
 
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