You know what is sickening

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What is sickening is the the sleazeballs on gunbroker.com and similar websites trying to up sell their merchandise with phrases like "Another Hi-Cap magazine handgun that will be banned ... Order now while there is still time." and " AWB II is comming, buy now" Its absolutely deplorable and disgusting and these people should be ashamed of themselves. This is the reason why Romanian AK's are $800 and counting, it just has to end.......
 
Yeah,capitalism + these high-cap guns/mags probably WILL be banned in the(near)future. AWB2 is just waiting for the time to be right.
 
Capitalism sucks... don't it?

Just curious, have you bought a bunch at these newly inflated prices? I haven't purchased anything. I guess I don't support capitalism.
 
I haven't bought many complete guns on gunbroker.com but I have bought receivers and other parts. Since I had to bid on them I actually was the one who set the price. If one seller's starting price was too high I just moved on to the next seller.
 
Capitalism isn't the problem. If people didn't buy at those outlandish prices the price would come down.
I don't like gouging anymore than the next guy, but if the dealers don't sell anything at their inflated prices then they will either go out of business or lower their prices. So I wouldn't blame capitalism as much I'd blame the people who are actually paying the high prices.
 
As far as I'm concerned it's the same thing as primer and powder shortages. Shooters are hoarding components when they can find them and many unscupulous online FFL dealers are quoting inflated prices for firearms and components and all are just trying to make a fast buck off your fears. All these things are the result of scare tactics and unfounded rumors that the Federal Government(can you say Obama?) is again going to initiate a new ban where everything is illegal. Guys, it ain't gonna happen for a long time, the Pres is too busy keeping the country afloat to worry about a gun ban now. The quick answer to these ridiculous prices is not to bite...period! Prices will come down and component stocks will go up. :mad:
 
"All these things are the result of scare tactics and unfounded rumors that the Federal Government(can you say Obama?) is again going to initiate a new ban where everything is illegal. Guys, it ain't gonna happen for a long time, the Pres is too busy keeping the country afloat to worry about a gun ban now." Don't bet your freedom on that!
 
If people are dumb enough to pay those inflated prices... let them.


When all this insanity ends, prices on guns, ammo, magazines and reloading components will drop because all the idiots will be out of cash.

The only things that I have bought since the insanity began was 5k pistol primers at $30 per k.. which was reasonable considering the insanity, and a lot of components that were still priced at pre-Obama prices.


Oh yeah and a bunch of Pmags for my AR that were 13.95 each.


Plenty of fools paid 120 per k of primers.
 
I was just looking through the reloading list at Gunbroker and 1k of primers are up to $52 with time left on the auction. It does make you wonder.
 
I get so tired of threads like these. You guys are crying about it because you don't have any of it to sell. I can guarantee you that if all these crybabies had primer or powder to sell, the would be selling it for as MUCH as the could possibly get, despite what they are saying here now. It's only unscrupulous when the other guy does it. No one is forcing you to buy anything, and no one forced you NOT to buy when you could. Take a little responsibility for yourself. Maybe when the prices come down, you'll build up a little stockpile against the NEXT time they will go up, because they always do. It's not called the business CYCLE for nothing, you know. Man up and quit whining.

Rant off.
 
Let Me Repeat Myself.

Everything I have bought on Gunbroker.com had to be BID on. In truth, the buyer(by bidding) NOT the seller, set the price paid.
 
Of course both sides will want to get the best deal possible but a buyer will only spend less than their maximum price and the seller will only accept more than their minimum price. Capitalism is the freedom to spend my own money as I choose and naturally any business must make money to survive.

Supply and demand. Demand is high at the moment. Supply is not unlimited.
 
I have seen a lot of these threads and so far nobody has ever explained why an offer to sell guns (or parts) sickens them. Seriousle, what is wrong with saying "I have THIS, I think is is worth $$$ because THAT."

Nobody is harmed by the offer.
Nobody is harmed by the asking price.
Nobody is harmed by the seller stating why they think an item is valuable.

Why would you be sickened? Oh, I know.... you want the item but don't want to pay the sasking price. A hint for you: haggle with the seller, not us.
 
the sickening thing is using fear and paranoia to drive the prices up... sure, bidders set the price... but when someone is whispering in your ear that you soon wont be able to get this or that (which is a tactic used by a local store. they send employees around in street clothes posing as customers saying stuff like man, you looking at AR's too, we better get them while we can...1500 dollars is cheap for them right now. we better hurry or they will be illegal) that is the problem...
 
If people are dumb enough to pay those inflated prices... let them.

I agree with the above:

I can't tell you how many times in the last few months
I've simply closed a browser window on gun sites
or even at the gun stores locally.

I was born in the morning, but not yesterday morning. :rolleyes:

Still though, can't blame a guy/girl for wanting to capitalize and maximize his/her profits.
Just remember who is doing what and how they are going about it.
Then simply spend your dollars elsewhere in the future, if you don't like what you see today. :)
 
Im not a fan of retailers long time practice of spreading F-U-D. However, those sellers have a right to get as much $$$ as they can. Just as we have the right to NOT BUY. Remember the old phrase; Caveat Emptor.

In 6 months (when people discover theres no looming AWB*), prices should settle down.

*The Dems have introduced an AWBII every year since AWB sunsetted. Luckily, most are crystal clear on the ramifications (political suicide) of passing such a bill.
Our job, dear friends, is to make sure that they're reminded from time to time.
 
"Our job, dear friends, is to make sure that they're reminded from time to time." Very well said. As soon as enough time has passed since the 1994 AWB was passed and the resulting aftermath is forgotten,it will again be brought up,with a better than even chance for passage. That time may be much sooner than is expected.
 
What I find more sickening than fear buying is the belief that Obama "has too much on his plate" to pass anti-gun legislation. ALL Obama needs do is tell Congress to "write it,pass it and I'll sign it". All it takes is an ink pen and a photo op to make it law. As a Clintonian once said "stroke of the pen,law of the land, cool". The greatest coup the devil ever counted was to convince the world that he doesn't exist.
 
I hope everyone of us writes and phones our reps, good people. Part of being prepared is keeping our weapons ready and able. Remeber; the pen is mightier than the sword.

The shear amount of $$$ spent on arms and ammo since the Nov elections has shown the powers that be where the American people stand on the matter of another AWB.

Stay frosty.
 
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