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Your Choices for SHTF GUNS

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by The Dutchman, Jul 28, 2005.

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  1. The Dutchman

    The Dutchman Member

    Mar 30, 2005
    This is an open discussion of any firearms you would feel compelled to have if and when SHTF. For example if China invades, roving packs of zombies takes over your hometown, or the US turns into a MAD MAX wasteland. Whatever the reason for your preparation what would be your choices whether a full auto AR-15 to a single action colt .38 blackpowder Navy model, it doesn't matter its your preference! It has always been the philosophy of my WW2 veteran grandpa who passed this philosophy on to me that the best gun for you is the one you shoot the best and has proven its worth to you.

    Me I would feel very comfortable with my dad's M1 Garand...its reliable, powerful and I am very intuned with it plus I'm able to shoot it with great accuracy. My sidearm would be my trusty HK USP fullsize .45. It has well over 2000 rounds through it and still functions flawlessly despite the comment that I was told that it would break on me within 100 rounds :cuss:
  2. cslinger

    cslinger Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Nashville, TN
    In all honesty if it's your basic end of the world type think I would think a good .22 rifle would make for a decent all purpose firearm. Maybe an AR15/AK, full caliber handgun and a .22 handgun instead.

    I would be more concerned about simple survival and less about kicking but in combat as I would likely be killed quickly.

    If we are talking true fantasy then I would have to go with 16 inch AR 15 but I would add a Trijicon ACOG or other non battery operated optic. I would most likely take my GP100 for a sidearm with a box of ammo/speed strips/loaders so I had a firearm not dependent on magazines and I would throw my Ruger Mark IIGC with three magazines and a brick of .22 for quiet use/small game etc.

  3. Eightball

    Eightball Member

    May 31, 2005
    Louisville, KY
    Fantasy? M79 with lotsa rounds.....or a street-sweeper loaded with slugs (now, if they bring in salt, then that's a problem :( :p )

    Realistic (from what I've got)--probably my SKS and my .22LR snubbie. That, and have my pals carry my .22 and my Saiga .308....while one carries the ammo and my .410 shotgun. As far as the extent of combat, I'd expect maybe taking on a few goblins/chinese, then running away (if chinese, then I'd take the weapons off their corpses....because FA would be nice once they withdraw :neener: ). Oh well, to each their own.
  4. Dionysusigma

    Dionysusigma Member

    Mar 27, 2003
    Okay City
    Any reason this is in the Handgun forum? :confused:
    Total collapse of civilization:
    • Crosman 1377. Nothin' like carrying 20,000 rounds in your backpack, still have room for other supplies, and able to take down small game for yourself. Stay away from people as it's no good in a self-defense role.
    • My SAR-1. Rugged, reliable, and decently powered.

    • MG3 with a couple truckloads of ammo, spare parts, and barrels. :)
  5. kevin387

    kevin387 Member

    Dec 20, 2004
    What an original question jk. I still love it. I would probably go with my GP 100 and Rossi 357 lever action. Very versital combo, easy to carry, reliable and no magazines to lose.
  6. Black Majik

    Black Majik Member

    Sep 13, 2003
    Orange County, California
    Honestly, if this is gonna be the last two firearms I'm gonna carry around without any resources, I'd pick something that would last without much maintenance.

    This would mean my pistol most likely would be polymer.HK USP in .45 would do well. I'd love to have a Colt Government, but I think eventually it'd rust.

    Rifle would be an AR-15. Just cuz I live in California and fantasize about one. Its all make believe so thats what I want. :D
  7. armoredman

    armoredman Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    proud to be in AZ
    Fantasy is the Dragunov carbine with non electronic sights, CZ 75 FA in 40 with super hi cap mags....
    Right now my HDR is a Mosin M38, and my trusty never rusty CZ 75 PO1.
  8. realmswalker

    realmswalker Member

    Feb 11, 2003
    My winchester m1 carbine, good for two and four legged critters, and either my hk usp 45 fullsize since i have combat classes with it, or my g17
  9. wizard of oz

    wizard of oz Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    the lucky country
    SHTF or reality, the minimum needed to do everything that you can do with a firearm is..
    centrefire rifle
    rimfire rifle or handgun
  10. Alex45ACP

    Alex45ACP Member

    Apr 21, 2005
    If the SHTF, I won't be reaching for a handgun :evil:
  11. LoadedDrum

    LoadedDrum Member

    Dec 7, 2004
    Well since this is in the Handgun forum I would say a pair of Glock 19 with G18 mags for fighting the zombies while keeping reloads to minimum. When ammo becomes tight have a Glock 33 with a G27 barrel as well as a 9mm conversion barrel. That way you can use 3 types of ammo and five types of magazine sizes.
  12. GAC

    GAC Member

    Jan 4, 2003
    Southern WI, Madison area
    Jeez, these zombie threads...

    I've never posted to a zombie/end of world thread before, but what the hey.

    Zombies: I'd want a semi-auto carbine with low recoil, quick follow-up, and a good optic. It could just be a pistol round if all I need are zombie head shots at closer range, otherwise I suppose something like a .30 carbine or .223 so I could lug plenty of ammo. Heck a Kel-Tec SUB 200 or Beretta Storm would work.
  13. MoeMentum

    MoeMentum Member

    Jul 23, 2004
  14. OldWolf

    OldWolf Member

    May 25, 2004
    North Carolina
    General Electric Chain Gun, caliber not important.
  15. Whatsit

    Whatsit Member

    Feb 24, 2005
    "...I don't want no teenage queen, I just want my M14.."
  16. Ridge

    Ridge Member

    Mar 13, 2005
    Martin County,Kentucky
    Model 10 Smith and my trusty old Marlin Model 60.
  17. MTMilitiaman

    MTMilitiaman Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    Missoula, Montana
    My Romanian AK clone and Glock 20. If I could, I would opt for a select fire Krebs AK or that custom 19" DSA FAL I have been dreaming of building and the Glock 20. In either case, I would want a .40 S&W barrel for the Glock because .40 ammo is a little more common than 10mm.
  18. Zach S

    Zach S Member

    Jun 30, 2003
    Western NC
    +1. But I want it mounted on a helo.

    AR15 and a 1911. I'd take my G17 as well for a loner pistol, not to mention it may come in handy if the ANG would be kind enough to drop us some ammo.
  19. 71Commander

    71Commander Member

    Sep 21, 2003
    Headin back to Johnson City
    Since long distance shots are not important, i'd leave the FAL and go with the AK. For up close and personal trench type encounters, a 1911.
  20. Kalashnikov

    Kalashnikov Member

    Jun 20, 2005
    Well I'm going to take a differant approach. I'd take a 4 man team (friends gotta watch each others back dont they ;) ) One could carry a 97 trench gun, another with an SKS, the third would be carrying a Thompson M1 subgun for those up close and personal moments, and I would have a 91/30 sniper, so the chinese wouldn't even be able to see me while they drop like flies :D Oh and for pistols we would all carry government model 1911 in .45ACP.
  21. JeepDriver

    JeepDriver Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    White Marsh, Maryland
    My M1A :evil: (maybe my PTR-91 if I can get the brass flying into my face problem sorted out) For my Wife, the M4gery. ;)

    My sidearm would be my Glock 34, and a Benelli M1 Super 90 slung across my back!
  22. chaim

    chaim Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    Columbia, MD
    Hmm, you gave a few different scenarios and really what I'd pick would be largely dependent on the scenario.

    For general societal collapse where life goes on relatively normally but there is no real law to speak of my choice would be different from large scale riots, large scale organized anarchy, combat, or whatever else. Life goes on relatively normally and we can stay in our homes I'd basically be set up as I am now for HD but the AR and 6 mags would likely be added to the always loaded list.

    For societal collapse where you are on the run I have a few thoughts. While a shotgun makes a lot of sense in many respects as it is so versatile with different loadings (slugs for distance, 00 buck for short range defense, and with different loadings it is good for pretty much any game in N. America) I think I'd stay away due to the ammo actually being pretty bulky and limiting the number of rounds. For my long gun it would depend upon whether it appeared more likely to need defense against individuals or very small groups or if it was larger groups (also, am I teamed up with others who are also armed). For simplicity and reliability I'd strongly consider my Winchester 94 in 30-30 or my .45LC Win 94 (though I'd prefer .44mag or .357mag for serious work over the .45LC since .45LC isn't quite as reliable out of a rifle). However, if serious combat was likely (against untrained roving bands) I'd probably either go with my SKS (reliable and durable) or my AR (more rounds). If I didn't need to go with what I currently own it would be between the lever rifle or an M1 Garand or M1A. The pistol would probably be my Taurus PT140 Millennium Pro (100% reliable to date) for when I want to be discrete backed with either S&W 65LS or 6" S&W 57 (hey, society has collapsed, I don't think I need to worry about MD's carry laws, or probably even keeping it concealed). If I didn't need to go with what I currently own the PT140 would probably be replaced with a Kimber Pro Carry or CDP Pro (1911 types have plenty of spare parts available so it would be possible to carry parts to fix nearly anything that might go wrong, and 1911s are easier for more people to work on).

    For combat against the Chinese Army my choices would be much different. The semi-trained "insurgents" in Iraq do best when they stick to IEDs or potshots at our troops, when they stand and fight they get cut down like firewood. While the Chinese aren't up to US military standards, they are good and I haven't seen military training for over a decade and a half now. Standing and fighting would be suicide. I think it would be more effective for groups of Americans to act as snipers/sharpshooters. Especially in urban areas. For my handgun I'd probably go with the Taurus PT 140 M. Pro or Taurus 85 (highly concealable). For my long gun I'd prefer a very accurate bolt rifle or single shot if in the country (long-range accurate, possible to be passed off as a hunter). Since I don't have one now, if I had to go with what I owned and I would do rural sharpshooting I'd either go with my 30-30 lever rifle (give up a lot in long-range accuracy, but very easy to pass off as a hunter) or my AR (get back the accuracy, but better not get caught). For urban use I'd probably go with a .22lr rifle- it will kill and it is much more quiet than a centerfire thus making detection less likely. Well enough hidden I might go with the same as the rural rifles. In all cases, I'd limit myself to one shot so it would be harder to detect my location.
  23. KriegHund

    KriegHund Member

    Feb 18, 2005
    Colorado, Broomfield
    I wouldnt mind using my Mini-14, but ide rather have some of those polymer magazines than my crap-o ones. Plus a small 4x or 6x scope.

    If i couldnt have that my mauser would do well, i like that thing alot.

    Then my nifty little .22 pump action. Light but as accurate as they come, and very durable.

    So, realisticly, ide carry the mini-14 for defense and the very occasional larger game, and the .22 for small game.

    The mauser is just to heavy and long when i really dont need that much firepower.

    Fantasy would be a CX4 storm in .40...

    Or actually an MP5 in 10mm owuld be nice too.

    Or maybe a P90 and FN57....
  24. Magnum88C

    Magnum88C Member

    Nov 30, 2003
    Since this end of the world stuff is a fantasy. . .

    I'll take a matching pair of 6.5" model 29s, a shorty SxS 12-gauge, a flame thrower,


    and Her:
  25. ewb45acp

    ewb45acp Member

    Aug 15, 2003
    Northeast PA.
    I'll use what i've got...

    Colt SP1 CAR-15
    Several Colt and Springfield 1911-A1s
    an assortment of .357 revolvers.
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