New Ruger Pistol Caliber Carbine?

The page below links to that dead recoil web link for the full article, but at least shows a little bit of summary (pasted below).

https://www.thegunpage.com/rugers-new-pistol-caliber-carbine/6403678

"The Ruger PC Carbine (hey, at least the name’s not gonna confuse anybody) is a “traditional” body style carbine – it’s a non-AR, non-modular setup that looks more like a 10/22 on performance-enhancing drugs. Speaking of overlap between the PC Carbine and 10/22, the trigger in the PC Carbine is comprised of 80% 10/22 parts which means if you happen…"

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The Ruger PC Carbine (hey, at least the name's not gonna confuse anybody) is a "traditional" body style carbine it's a non-AR, non-modular setup that looks more like a 10/22 on performance-enhancing drugs.

Speaking of overlap between the PC Carbine and 10/22, the trigger in the PC Carbine is comprised of 80% 10/22 parts which means if you happen to get a PC Carbine and happen to also get some really good quality 10/22 trigger components, you may magically wind up with a PC Carbine that has an awesome bang switch.

Out of the box, the PC Carbine is configured to accept magazines from Ruger's newest pistol, the Security 9. But plug-and-play mag wells are available for both Ruger SR9 magazines and Glock 9mm magazines. This latter option is going to make the PC Carbine accessible to wide swaths of the existing PCC market who would otherwise have had to commit to proprietary magazines.

In the style of their Scout Rifle, both front and rear iron sights are on the barrel, with a length of Picatinny rail on the receiver. Said sights are also our chief gripe with the PC Carbine, as the rear sight must be loosened with an Allen wrench, moved along a slide, then re-tightened in order to zero. We'd have liked to have seen a click-based adjustment system but since throwing a red dot on top is just too easy, it will likely not be a concern for most. The charging handle is also easily swappable, whether you're a southpaw or whether you fancy running your PC Carbine more like an AK or more like an FAL.

Holy crap! Glock mags confirmed!

Yeah. Also confirmed as just another carbine in 9mm. Yawn. Oh well.

The action itself looks very hi-point.

Which isn’t necessary a bad thing

John_R said:

One day they may sell an integrally suppressed barrel unit...

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Given their direction recently, and the takedown nature of this carbine, I would guess there is a good probability. If they can keep the price reasonable on this, it could be quite the toy.

the take-down feature doesn't do anything for me, however, everything else is almost exactly what i have been hoping for. if the price point is reasonable (being a polymer ruger i am sure it will be) i will own one of these. waiting with fingers crossed for this to come out!!!!

Interesting- I'll keep and eye out.

be still my heart, this is exactly what i need.

Sounds interesting especially if it can be adapted to take either SR or Glock magazines (have plenty of both).

I’d take one.BTW, for you 10 mm fans, High point is now making a 10mm carbine.

Think I prefer the original Ruger PC. Despite being uglier than a yak's backside, I'd be OK with this new thing and its plastic stock and mag well. But when the trigger group and what appears to be most of the action are poly, I'm out.
Kinda like a new Nylon 66?
The Beretta CX is way too plasticky too- especially for the $900 they want for that thing!
At least my Taurus CT9 is about 60% sheet steel and aluminum extrusions....

Ruger is killing my bank account lately!

With 33 round Glock "happy sticks", a solid mini or full size red dot optic, and a good three point sling, this would make a solid defensive carbine... provide they work. Hopefully they've the same penchant for reliable operation as most blowback carbines like the Beretta and Kel-Tec, and PLEASE no recalls!!

Ruger's done it again - found some microscopic niche that's unfilled and unveiled (seemingly?) a decent product to meet demand. The Glock mag well and 80% interchangeability with 10/22 parts looks slick.

I'll bet you right now that this gun will be better than a Hi-Point and cheaper than the Beretta Storm, which puts it in a very nice spot for PCC fans. People will say "what's the point of a 9mm rifle", but if all I could shoot at was pistol-caliber indoor ranges, I'd buy one of these tomorrow.

Boy that is a lot of plastic. It would have to be in the $350 range and be reasonably accurate for me to be interested.

BigBore44 said:

Sure looks a lot like the Ruger PC carbine, just in a takedown.

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The action of this PC Carbine thing is much different from Ruget PC9, which is what I suspect you're referring. That one was somewhat more compact, because the delaying mass was located under the barrel, same as in Mini-14.

What this tells us, Kel-Tec ought to make a 9mm version of RDB Survival. Or, even better, .45 ACP and 10mm versions. Ruger would have a hard time reproducing those, at least using PC Carbine platform.

At first I was kind of repulsed at the looks but the more I look at it I'm kind of coming around to it. I'm guessing the pictures are a pre production model as the flow and knit lines from molding the stock aren't quite worked out. If they can make a decent uniform finish on the stock and if its reasonably stiff I'll give it a go. I just got a hi point but if this is reasonably priced I can move that on.

I’ve been looking for something California legal that could fill the same role as a rimfire plinker but that fires something reloadable (important due to looming draconian ammo laws).

Pistol cal carbines are more maligned on forums than shotguns, but when it comes to pure fun at the range, they’re hard to beat.

As a side note, the folks at Ruger are marketing geniuses if they did what I think they did here.

R.W.Dale said:

The action itself looks very hi-point.

Which isn’t necessary a bad thing

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The Hi-Point is a blowback and makes the receiver heavy. While the overall gun is heavy it is a fun shooter.

If the Ruger PC is a blowback action it will be interesting to see how they handled it's weight since a blowback by design needs a heavy bolt. The picture shows a fluted barrel which will help to shift the weight of gun to the receiver.

The replaceable mag well is novel. The gun will certainly have a much bigger market with magwells for the Beretta 92 and S&W M&P. Perhaps a enterprising company will offer it as aftermarket accessory.

The biggest shortcoming of the Hi-Point Carbine is it's single stack magazine. The Ruger addresses that but the real question will be what the out-the-door price will be.

Yujun said:

Out of the box, the PC Carbine is configured to accept magazines from Ruger's newest pistol, the Security 9. But plug-and-play mag wells are available for both Ruger SR9 magazines and Glock 9mm magazines.

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Darn. Well, guess that's a wrap for me, since I own none of the above (pistols). Makes me more thankful for the multi-mag model of the Gen 2 Sub 2000, which accepts 7 different mag types (not counting the Glock version, which is its own separate model):
https://www.keltecweapons.com/media/faq/file/150350107571395774.pdf

A non-AR pistol caliber carbine in 9mm made by Ruger. Almost exactly what I wanted, except for I'd prefer the magazine go up a pistol grip magazine well for a compact length without being a takedown.

So, Ruger must be looking to market this to all 50 states?

Either way, I think this is the short range shooter I've been waiting for. If they happen to make it in a wood stocked non-takedown version . . . well, that's where my money will go.