45acp long guns--what are the options?

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Do you want a historical collectible or a practical weapon?

As wiscoaster points out in post #3, the AutoOrdnance Thompson is a .45 ACP long gun.

I bought an AutoOrdnance Thompson TM1 as a companion to an AutoOrdnance 1911A1 clone pistol I bought from my son to help him out in a hard time.

Both guns were from Numrich Arms, West Hurley NY, stamped with the Thompson brand and bullet logo, long before Kahr Arms bought the AutoOrdnance brand from Numrich.

The TM1 is as heavy as an original WWII M1 Thompson (12 lbs loaded with a 30rd "stick" magazine Type XXX) but the TM1 is semi-auto only with a 16.5 inch legal rifle length barrel.

It is cool as being the closest I'll get to a WWII relic, but it probably is not a serious practical weapon. Besides the heavy rifle type weight but pistol caliber, the length of pull (center of buttplate to trigger) is absurd (over 15 inches) as is the drop from line-of-sight to center of butt plate. The Thompson Model 1923 had a more ergonomic buttstock than any of the Thompson 1921, 1928, M1 types.

Squint your eyes, the TM1 is Audie Murphy movie cool. I'll probably never sell mine.

But as a weapon, honestly, the .45 Hi Point carbine has it beat. But I opt to keep the historical replica. Your interests, wants and needs should vary.
 
Convert an 1894 Marlin .45 Colt to ACP or have John Taylor make an extra barrel to fit onto your .410 shotgun.
 
The HK USC is a fine gun. The barrel looks,to me, longer than it actually is. The after market conversion so as to run U.S. military "grease gun" mags is reliable way around the factory 10 round mag.
 
Do you want a historical collectible or a practical weapon?

As wiscoaster points out in post #3, the AutoOrdnance Thompson is a .45 ACP long gun.

I bought an AutoOrdnance Thompson TM1 as a companion to an AutoOrdnance 1911A1 clone pistol I bought from my son to help him out in a hard time.

Both guns were from Numrich Arms, West Hurley NY, stamped with the Thompson brand and bullet logo, long before Kahr Arms bought the AutoOrdnance brand from Numrich.

The TM1 is as heavy as an original WWII M1 Thompson (12 lbs loaded with a 30rd "stick" magazine Type XXX) but the TM1 is semi-auto only with a 16.5 inch legal rifle length barrel.

It is cool as being the closest I'll get to a WWII relic, but it probably is not a serious practical weapon. Besides the heavy rifle type weight but pistol caliber, the length of pull (center of buttplate to trigger) is absurd (over 15 inches) as is the drop from line-of-sight to center of butt plate. The Thompson Model 1923 had a more ergonomic buttstock than any of the Thompson 1921, 1928, M1 types.

Squint your eyes, the TM1 is Audie Murphy movie cool. I'll probably never sell mine.

But as a weapon, honestly, the .45 Hi Point carbine has it beat. But I opt to keep the historical replica. Your interests, wants and needs should vary.

You are correct about everything you say; the recreated semi-only Thompson really is not a practical weapon, due to inherent bad ergonomics and weight ........ but it is a WAAAAAAAY COOL RANGE TOY!!!!:evil:
 
While I like and respect the .45 ACP...?

It starts slowin' down after 11" of Bbl. length.

The .40 S&W, on the other hand, is accelerating out to 15".

...about the same as a .357 Mag/158 gr.. (16").

Better std. pressure carbine round, the .40/180 gr.




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OK, but a 40 S&W carbine won’t shoot the 45acp ammo I have buckets full of.
 
"Not for use with reloads" ?
Ya, I caught that, too. I suppose you stick a rifle barrel on the end of a pistol you've got to be a little careful about how hot your loads are. The manufacturer isn't going to want to be blamed if it blows up.
 
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