bdickens
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I clean my guns every time I shoot them.
I don't overdo it.
I don't overdo it.
The question is, what more would need to be done assuming non-corrosive primers and smokeless powders?when i got it home, i ran a bore brush through the barrel and each cylinder a few times. i put a touch of oil on the extractor rod.
Is it "clean" after doing that? If youre going to the trouble, might as well do it right.Seems like maybe some of the most recent commentators didn’t read the first post:
The question is, what more would need to be done assuming non-corrosive primers and smokeless powders?
What more would need to be done assuming non-corrosive primers and smokeless powders?Is it "clean" after doing that? If youre going to the trouble, might as well do it right.
I guess everyone has a different idea as to what "clean" is. If its clean, its clean, if its not, its not. I guess it all depends on what you call "clean" too.What more would need to be done assuming non-corrosive primers and smokeless powders?
I replaced the buffer in my wife's H&R Model HK4 .380/.22LR last week. After 40+ years the factory orange fiber buffer finally had it and I replaced it with a "red buffer" - fantastic product, BTW. I took it to the indoor range, fired four 7-round mags loaded with my .380ACP loads through it - Hornady 100gr. FMJ over 3.2gr. W231 - just to check the action and noticed the POA-vs-POI seemed to have shifted. I took it apart at the firing line, reseated the barrel, checked the buffer, etc. and put a fifth mag through it - 35 rounds total fired up to this point. POI and POA were again aligned. Must have been me. A sixth and seventh mag - now at 50 rounds total, a "full box" - and all's good with the HK4. I swapped to the .22LR barrel - which involves flipping the breech face and shifting the FP up into the rimfire position, as well as swapping barrels - and fired three rounds - all POI=POA and functioned correctly. Done. When I got home I disassembled the HK4, wiped the feed ramp and breech face with an oily rag, and ran a brush down the .22 barrel after removing it, wiped it clean and put it back in the box. The rest of the pistol got a "complete" cleaning with Hoppes and light mineral oil.I guess everyone has a different idea as to what "clean" is. If its clean, its clean, if its not, its not. I guess it all depends on what you call "clean" too.
I was at a Boy Scout outing where we were shooting a good bit of all sorts of stuff. Afterward, we were all sitting around cleaning what we'd shot, and one of the other dads basically cleaned his revolver as was mentioned above, a swipe or two with a brush, a wet patch, and a dry patch and he was done. He was getting on me for taking so long and using so many patches. I said it takes what it takes to get it clean. He said it doesnt take that much, and I bet him a buck that if I wet brushed his gun again, the patch would come out "dark" dirty, and would keep coming out like that for more than just a couple of patches. He lost that bet.
I clean a number of different guns every week. Im not overly anal about it, but the guns are clean and freshly lubed when Im done. In other words, the patches come out closer to white than they show a lot of crap on them.
They never come out "white", like they went in, but if they keep coming out with more black on them than white, the gun isnt yet "clean". It might be cleaner than when you started, but its not clean.
Nope....I have revolvers I have not cleaned in thousands of rounds/ years. I simply wipe then with an oily cloth and put them away.
And what is the point? Are you serving the gun's needs or your own?I guess everyone has a different idea as to what "clean" is. If its clean, its clean, if its not, its not. I guess it all depends on what you call "clean" too.
I was at a Boy Scout outing where we were shooting a good bit of all sorts of stuff. Afterward, we were all sitting around cleaning what we'd shot, and one of the other dads basically cleaned his revolver as was mentioned above, a swipe or two with a brush, a wet patch, and a dry patch and he was done. He was getting on me for taking so long and using so many patches. I said it takes what it takes to get it clean. He said it doesnt take that much, and I bet him a buck that if I wet brushed his gun again, the patch would come out "dark" dirty, and would keep coming out like that for more than just a couple of patches. He lost that bet.
I clean a number of different guns every week. Im not overly anal about it, but the guns are clean and freshly lubed when Im done. In other words, the patches come out closer to white than they show a lot of crap on them.
They never come out "white", like they went in, but if they keep coming out with more black on them than white, the gun isnt yet "clean". It might be cleaner than when you started, but its not clean.
Just a data point, but from barrel maker Schuemann BarrelsI guess everyone has a different idea as to what "clean" is.
LOL. Not quite.Trackskippy,
So for a buck, a guy tricked you into
cleaning his gun. Smart fellow.
Both. My guns have always worked better clean, and didnt shoot any worse clean, so as I see it, Im always going to be ahead.And what is the point? Are you serving the gun's needs or your own?
Hey, if he says so. Ive been shooting a long time, and Ive never seen a barrel get cleaner all by itself.Just a data point, but from barrel maker Schuemann Barrels
https://szbarrels.com/Portals/0/Documentation/Webfile_Barrel_Cleaning.pdf?ver=HsveiaoPD4Wz6fMSqzGVYw==
"My Personal Practice has become to never clean the bore of my barrels. I do use a brass rod to scrape the deposits out of the chamber. But, I've learned to leave the bore alone and it very slowly becomes shinier and cleaner all by itself. Years ago I occasionally scrubbed the bore with a brass bore brush. But, doing so always seemed to cause the bore to revert to a dirtier look with more shooting, so I eventually stopped ever putting anything down the bore except bullets..."
How do you know that? So your guns need to be clean and mine don't? How do they know the difference?Both. My guns have always worked better clean, and didnt shoot any worse clean, so as I see it, Im always going to be ahead.
I know that because Ive had trouble with guns not working properly because they were dirty. Mostly 22's, but a few others that had a lot of rounds through them in an outing. If they hadnt been maintained, things would have only been worse.How do you know that? So your guns need to be clean and mine don't? How do they know the difference?