Concealed Carry - Friend's House

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sign216 said:
Thank you all for replying. An interesting collection of beliefs, even for a forum as uniform as this.
Gun owners are not a monolithic block.

The absolutism expressed is less appealing, but the anonymous nature of the internet brings that out.
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You are welcome, and like most everything else in life, folks have a wide variety of opinions. Don't know how you found out your SIL was CWCing, but as I said in my original reply, unless you had stated something in advance about not doing it in your house, as long as he was within the confines of the law, you can't be upset with him, regardless of how you feel about his gun handling. A discrete conversation may be in order if his CWCing in your home in the future, will be upsetting.

As for the absolutism expressed, again, folks have a wide variety of opinions. Personally, I would never let insisting I have to CWC in someone else's house be the knife that cuts the ties of family or friends. My family and friends are just to precious to me. Same goes for politics, especially in the last two decades. Have found that leaving those discussions at the door, many times makes so there/s no hard feelings at the end of the night. I have also found that many times it's not the homeowner themselves that are not uncomfortable with a certain scenario, but other members of their family, or other guests. Their respect and consideration of others is definitely a motivator for me too.

But again, we all have our opinions. Those may well be inspired by the amount of threat in our particular area/scenario. They may have been inspired by previous events or feelings inspired many years ago. The fact that legal CWC is a very recent phenomenon in many parts of the country is evidence of this. Only 11 years ago, one would not be having this conversation in my state. Some folks just haven't gotten used to the idea yet.
 
I would never entrust my firearm to another person for storage just because it is their house. Don't want me to be armed in your house? Fine. It is getting locked in my car. Most friends don't even know when I am armed anyway.
 
I was going to put a sign in my den ...

You're welcome to carry here, concealed or otherwise
but
... please leave your smartphone in the basket.​

My attorney daughters and son-in-laws said it might cause me some legal issues if I ever had to shoot an intruder breaking into or entering the home.

I need to work on my wording. I've already got the perfect square brass basket to hang under the sign.
 
Airborne Falcon said:
You're welcome to carry here, concealed or otherwise but ... please leave your smartphone in the basket.
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Given common usage on both web fora and internet chats, it is most pleasing to see proper use of two often mis-used words, and that you're going to refine the sign to please your offspring.
Congratulations and attaboy!
\(*^*)/
 
KY DAN said:
I can't really tell what your doing here..... your pro gun but only if someone says it's ok. Rather Fuddish of you, I have carried a pistol since I was 13 and frankly never gave anythought to carrying in a residence not my own. As long as I am not brandishing said weapon how in the world would you know.

When my dad died in 2018 my best range buddy in the world met me in the parking lot and asked if I had a gun to which I opened my tux jacket to reveal a kimber 1911 gov and extra mags on a range instructer style belt. The awkward part was he opened his jacket and revealed the same set up, we should have corroded our attire lol.

My right does not end where your door begins, we can be acquaintances and I won't visit you.

This question reminds me of a group of Mormons I worked with in 2018 and they were discussing the insanity of people carrying guns in their tabernacle and how it upset them so......... some people will never accept the real world facts bad things i.e. VIOLENT MURDER can and will come to houses of worship, personal homes, schools, restaurants, truck stops, gas stations, super centers, malls, sport events, etc.

A home owner can not protect you, only you can and the novel concept of surrendering a weapon to your host is a delusional submission.
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Concealed is concealed.



After a church shooting, a couple years back, Old Lady Holier-than-Thou stood up it the beginning of church service and ask the Pastor if the doors had been locked to secure the service?

He informed her they doors were not locked and would not be locked. She was as safe in church, as she was home and probably, more so.

She questioned, " how is that, my home as locked? "

To which he replied, " are you armed? you have those around you that are armed, capable and willing to protect their church family. "

She gasped, " you ALLOW guns in the church? "

He looks around the congregation, " They have a RIGHT to protect themselves. Looking around, i would estimate 12-15 are armed, possibly more. I know 1 is, because that 1 is me. If that bothers you, feel free to leave. If you have felt secure for the 10 years that's you have been there, why would you not feel secure now? "

She left.

After service, I asked about this 12-15. I KNEW of 21, for sure. As others gathered and joined the conversation, turned out to be 24. Those extra 3 had decided that morning, not to leave it on the car.

Several, who were not armed, thanked us for "guarding over them".

Pastor, who is ex-military MP, was carrying 3 concealed and had another in the pulpit, plus an M4 in the office.
 
A LEO once said the most dangerous situation for him, was when he least expected a problem...may be the kid is testing himself and you for concealment purposes. 2) I did it once while watching the Packers with my wife and (married) daughter. Neither one thought anything about it. I was testing a new holster and was wondering again about concealment and how comfortable it might be.
 
Just me and my wife here most of the time. I do keep a couple loaded in the house at all times. If an adult family member or friend and carrying comes over , No problem. If my grand kids are around all guns must be locked up. Including mine. No exceptions.
 
It is really a sad state of affairs when someone is living in such a constant state of fear that even when going to a friends home for dinner or to play cards they must be armed.
When they break out the beers and whiskey do you put your guns away?
 
I carry concealed everywhere, including other people's homes. I'm sure many have carried concealed in mine as well. And?

The last thing I would ever do is walk into someone's home, pull out my gun and ask them to put it somewhere for me.
 
Atavar said:
It is really a sad state of affairs when someone is living in such a constant state of fear that even when going to a friends home for dinner or to play cards they must be armed.
When they break out the beers and whiskey do you put your guns away?
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Fear has nothing to with it, that’s a silly thing to say.

And fwiw, I don’t drink and if I’m visiting people to do, after the shooting and steaks when the liquor comes out, I thank them for a good time and a good meal then I drive home.
 
Atavar said:
It is really a sad state of affairs when someone is living in such a constant state of fear that even when going to a friends home for dinner or to play cards they must be armed.
When they break out the beers and whiskey do you put your guns away?
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I guess its a mentality thing. I never looked at carrying a gun being something fear driven. Its just a tool that I carry, and no different than a multi tool or pocket knife, etc.

What makes it something that is wrong? Unless its the fear of those worrying about it that is driving things.

Unless you're planning on getting drunk and out of hand, a drink or beer or two isnt going to magically turn you into trouble or a problem anymore that it would if you weren't carrying.
 
trackskippy said:
Unless you're planning on getting drunk and out of hand, a drink or beer or two isnt going to magically turn you into trouble or a problem anymore that it would if you weren't carrying.
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I suspect it will become an issue if you find yourself in front of a judge after using your firearm.
 
Meh, you worry too much.

Do what you want and don't MAKE it a problem until it IS A problem.
 
.38 Special said:
If nobody's "friend's home" had ever been subject to any sort of violent crime, that would be a valid point. Otherwise, it's just another anti-gun slogan.
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If you went to your friends home for supper and brought an uninvited child you would ask it it were ok. It is common politeness.
If you went to a friends home for a party and brought you constant companion dog you would ask if it were ok. It is just common politeness.
When attending a gathering it is also common courtesy to let your host know you are armed. I would not announce it to the gathering at large but your host should know.
 
Atavar said:
It is really a sad state of affairs when someone is living in such a constant state of fear that even when going to a friends home for dinner or to play cards they must be armed.
When they break out the beers and whiskey do you put your guns away?
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Fear has absolutely zero to-do with it. For some it is simply habit. For others it is a way of life. Still others may do-it for personal reasons ... bad neighborhoods, a stalker or simply for peace of mind.

For me it has become habit ... a way of life. At my wife's and mine ages I can no longer fight my way out of a wet paper sack with my fists. I can barely walk half the time, especially in cold damp weather. I do carry a knife and POM as tools, just as I do my little pistol. My Dad, well into his 80s - almost 90 actually, still carries everywhere he goes.

We were raised that way down here in The South. I remember my Grandpappy carrying his 1911 in the small of his back when I was a kid in the late 50s .... so many do and have down here. Of course, I also remember when we all had shotguns in the back windows of our trucks in high school.

We don't really play cards. We do drink from time to time.

Fear has zilch to-do with it, especially at this age and stage.

Oh, btw, my wife is always packing in her little handbag as well. She fears nothing. Most things fear her ... including me.

;)

I take my dog everywhere. Everyone knows that about me. She flies with me. She goes everywhere with me. Of course, she's a registered service dog so ... she's laying here at my feet this very moment.
 
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If my friend doesn't want me carrying in their house I don't need them as a friend. Because we probably wouldn't see any common ground on any subjects.
I have a large group of friends they all know I carry concealed most of them do too & we trust each other to carry safely while in each others homes. I have yet to see anyone object of anyone carrying in their house.
I live in a bad neighborhood, a neighbor was shot to death in the yard across from me a few years back. Last night was New Years & I counted at least a dozen different people shooting guns to celebrate. (this is inside the city limits)
I just hope they are being safe.
 
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sign216 said:
Thoughts on concealed carry into a friend's house.

Situation: Wife and I were having a dinner for step daughter, son in law, my son, and baby. I find out my son-in-law is carrying, under his shirt. I didn't say anything, but when I go to a friend's house, I always leave my gun in the car. If leaving in the car isn't safe, I give it to the homeowner I'm visiting, to hold for me.

What are the thoughts on this?

Joe

P.S. I'm in Massachusetts, a very gun un-friendly state (if that matters).
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I didn't read the whole thread, but this might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Why would you give your gun to the homeowner to hold? Or leave it in the car to be stolen? Just carry it concealed on your person, as you would anywhere else.

Your son in law did nothing wrong. Concealed means concealed.
 
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