Concealed Carry - Friend's House

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Thoughts on concealed carry into a friend's house.

Situation: Wife and I were having a dinner for step daughter, son in law, my son, and baby. I find out my son-in-law is carrying, under his shirt. I didn't say anything, but when I go to a friend's house, I always leave my gun in the car. If leaving in the car isn't safe, I give it to the homeowner I'm visiting, to hold for me.

What are the thoughts on this?

Joe

P.S. I'm in Massachusetts, a very gun un-friendly state (if that matters).
 
sign216 said:
Thoughts on concealed carry into a friend's house.

Situation: Wife and I were having a dinner for step daughter, son in law, my son, and baby. I find out my son-in-law is carrying, under his shirt. I didn't say anything, but when I go to a friend's house, I always leave my gun in the car. If leaving in the car isn't safe, I give it to the homeowner I'm visiting, to hold for me.

What are the thoughts on this?

Joe

P.S. I'm in Massachusetts, a very gun un-friendly state (if that matters).
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maybe he isn’t comfortable giving up his means of self defense for me this is a non issue because if I invite you over to the house I trust your judgment with a firearm among other things so I think your overthinking this one, that said it is your house your “rules” so if you want him not to have it in the house just tell him that he can leave it in the car or give it to you while he is there
 
I'm on NC and it's gun friendly. Open carry is legal. And where im at its very common to see open carry in the stores and gas stations. I don't personally but pointing out the difference in our areas.

I couldn't care less if someone carries in my home. I don't know anyone who would care either. That said, unless I just stopped in and was already carrying, I don't carry in people houses either.

I'll warn you I'm in the minority on here. Not carrying while asleep in your bed or getting your mail on your 100 acre estate that's a mile from any road is just ignorant and irresponsible on these forums. Not just your ccw gun. But your backup gun, and your handgun for bear.

That said, if my father in law asked me for my gun before going in someone else's home (not his) there would be a while nother set of problems to deal with. He wouldn't do that. And we get along fine. If it were his house then I may be perfectly accepting of his no carry mentality. Non-issue though since he carries. His brother is a Trooper and is always carrying. My dad carries. BiL on both sides carries. Everyone carries. And they all know that I'm by far the better shooter and very careful . Same for my dad. It would kind of hurt my feelings actually and I have 400 people under me...I have pretty thick skin. I read important new things about myself regularly on bathroom walls. Lol. I mean a government and many strangers deemed me responsible enough to carry my gun concealed. BUT my own father or father in law don't? Idk. Might cut me a bit deep. Might make me mad. Idk.

Different cultures though. We were all hunting after school in the 90s. Raised on guns. Had guns in the gun racks at school right up until columbine. Then things changed here

I own a small side buisness. People come in open carrying all the time. And I admit its still odd to me to see people in dress clothes open carrying. Not hunting or casual clothes either. Lol. Or the guy in shorts and flip flops open carrying. Lol. Many more im sure are are concealed carrying. Which brings up the other point

If you noticed he was carrying then maybe talk about better concealing. If one is concealed carrying and doesn't have to defend themselves... nobody should know he was carrying. But yeah. It happens

If I knew someone was antigun I highly doubt I'd be going to their house. Not over that single issue but because I don't think we would agree on much else. I dont know any anti gun folks though. That would change my attitude on this one maybe. Idk
 
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If you don't want folks to CWC in your house, you need to make that clear before they come in, as in when invited. If you carry yourself, then you know your SIL is no real threat to you or your family if he keeps the gun concealed. Taking your CWC weapon and handing it to a homeowner, is much more dangerous than keeping the gun on you. I personally don't see an issue unless you think the SIL should have informed you first out of politeness.
 
A son-in-law is by definition someone who married your daughter. And you don’t trust him with a handgun? Why is he married if you don’t trust him with a handgun?

Another take: your son-in-law is an asset should something bad happen. He is part of the family, and if he were in my house, he would be presupposed to be trustworthy before he gets in the door. As such, he’s going to be on my side should something criminal happen when he happens to be there.

If my father-in-law asked me not to have a firearm in his house, I would no longer visit his house, for the reasons in my above statements. He’s not a gun guy, so he probably hasn’t thought through the possible meanings of asking me not to carry a firearm in his house. On the other hand, he probably doesn’t know that I carry a firearm. That’s what I consider concealed carry to be about.

Two somewhat unrelated thoughts to my above line of reasoning. First, my car is always a less safe option for handgun storage than on my person. Second, someone else possessing my firearm is always a less safe option than me possessing my firearm (not necessarily because my friends or family are possibly malicious, but negligence is a concern, and forgetfulness is as well).
 
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I see that my thoughts pretty much follow the posters before me!

I'm a firm believer in "My House My Rules". Having a licensed concealed carrier carrying in my house would not bother me. Unless his carry method could damage my furniture. Or if it was dangerous, as in likely to be dropped.

If I'm visiting someone I go by their rules. If they are not comfortable with me carrying I either lock it in the console in my locked car or give them the choice about where to store it. However there is a strong possibility that I won't make a return visit to that place. Thats just me.

Another thought is that if others spot your concealed carry you may need to work on your method of concealment.
 
I carry everywhere that is legal and avoid where I can't.
I'm not that social, I wish someone (wife's anti-gun relatives) would tell me I can't carry in their house. No problem, I don't have to go. Thanks!

ETA: They don't own guns, but very well know we do - they never ask when we get together and I don't bring it up. ;)
 
Mauser lover said:
If my father-in-law asked me not to have a firearm in his house, I would no longer visit his house, for the reasons in my above statements. He’s not a gun guy, so he probably hasn’t thought through the possible meanings of asking me not to carry a firearm in his house. On the other hand, he probably doesn’t know that I carry a firearm. That’s what I consider concealed carry to be about.
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There's a lot to be said about respect. Far too many want to be given respect, but don't feel any obligation to return it. A common saying is "respect is earned, not given". It's a two way street. I have friends who smoke. They know when they come to my house they cannot smoke inside. The still come, and they don't smoke inside. I have friends that are recovering alcoholics. Out of respect to them, I don't take liquor to their house when we play cards there. They don;t have to ask. I also have friends that are not gun friendly and are uncomfortable around guns. They ask me not to carry in their house. Their friendship means enough to me, that I leave my gun in the car/jeep when we visit them. They do not live in an area of high crime, nor have they ever had a home invasion. I realize that thee is still a minute possibility of one, whhilw we are there, but like all things in life, I assess the risk and deem it viable to enter their home minus my EDC. Similar to the bank and Post Office. Last thing I would want to do is to drive a stake thru the rapport I have with my in-laws because I insist on CWCing 24/7/365, everywhere I go. But that's me. Similar to the first two lines of a favorite song.....

I know better than to cuss in my Mama's house,
So more than not I just shut my mouth.
 
I've seen that a couple times on this thread about "you must trust him, you gave him your daughter." It's most assuredly not always the case. My sister married a complete idiot once (a couple times lol) . Ran off to another state for awhile. Lol. People daughters marry people they hate all the time. I don't care who he is, I don't want him with my two girls. Lol. Some are far better than the others.

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Unless his carry method could damage my furniture
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That's one of my issues with open carry. My LE friends shred everything. From car paint to furniture to car interiors. Lol. Especially car interiors. When sitting down that grip is a mile from their side. The baseplate on their mags and sometimes the whole grip is always beat to hell.
 
You live in Mass, which isn’t the most gun friendly state, so my only question regards this; is he legally carrying his concealed gun.

If yes, I have no issue, welcome aboard. If it’s digging into your hip and you want to set it aside while you visit, I have a safe place to store it until you’re ready to leave.

If not, adios. I don’t want your potential crime at my house. ( And daughter has a chat with Mom and I about marrying clowns.)

Stay safe.
 
There's a simple solution.. if you don't want weapons in your home, post it on the door. That gives me the option of choosing not to come in or securing it in my car safe. If you carry, you need to do it responsibly and have a plan. You need to make provisions ahead of time for these kind of occurrences.
 
Oh, this is exactly why I don’t leave a gun in a vehicle unless it’s in a safe box securely attached to the vehicle… and even then I don’t like doing that.

This mope broke into my neighbors Hummer on Tuesday at 10 pm. They were at home and their hilltop lot is 4 acres, with a gated driveway that’s 150 feet past the end of our cul de sac. Didn’t stop this parolee looking arse one bit, he was in and out in under a minute.

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Stay safe.
 
sign216 said:
Thoughts on concealed carry into a friend's house.

Situation: Wife and I were having a dinner for step daughter, son in law, my son, and baby. I find out my son-in-law is carrying, under his shirt. I didn't say anything, but when I go to a friend's house, I always leave my gun in the car. If leaving in the car isn't safe, I give it to the homeowner I'm visiting, to hold for me.

What are the thoughts on this?

Joe

P.S. I'm in Massachusetts, a very gun un-friendly state (if that matters).
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Usually I ask the home owner on first visit how they feel about me carrying inside their home. YES or NO is not a friendship breaker but gives me guidance.
 
sign216 said:
Thoughts on concealed carry into a friend's house.

Situation: Wife and I were having a dinner for step daughter, son in law, my son, and baby. I find out my son-in-law is carrying, under his shirt. I didn't say anything, but when I go to a friend's house, I always leave my gun in the car. If leaving in the car isn't safe, I give it to the homeowner I'm visiting, to hold for me.

What are the thoughts on this?

Joe

P.S. I'm in Massachusetts, a very gun un-friendly state (if that matters).
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How come you give up your weapon? If I was a criminal and was dealing drugs or running some other criminal enterprise out of my home I would insist that people be checked and unarmed at the door for security, but barring being a criminal, just having friends and family over or me going there, I don't know why I wouldn't want people I presumably trust to surrender their firearms to me and vice versa.

ETA: OTOH, if it were somebody I didn't know well, I wouldn't want them carrying in my home but I don't think you should have anybody in your home you don't know or trust. Somewhat related but, I know a plumber and son and I have been on jobs with them and noticed the son is carrying, oddly IWB but with the shirt tucked behind it so as to expose it??? Anyway it just got me to thinking how many of the out of state 2nd home owners feel about the plumber walking in visibly strapped......stupid way to carry.
 
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sign216 said:
Thoughts on concealed carry into a friend's house.

Situation: Wife and I were having a dinner for step daughter, son in law, my son, and baby. I find out my son-in-law is carrying, under his shirt. I didn't say anything, but when I go to a friend's house, I always leave my gun in the car. If leaving in the car isn't safe, I give it to the homeowner I'm visiting, to hold for me.

What are the thoughts on this?

Joe

P.S. I'm in Massachusetts, a very gun un-friendly state (if that matters).
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No. I'd never give my concealed carry gun to the home owner for holding. No matter what their relationship to me may be.

If the homeowner didn't want me to carry a gun in his/her house, I wouldn't take a gun in the house. That might mean that I'm not going in their house, though.

I don't carry concealed to be a threat to others, so that means that I don't tell or show others that I'm carrying. Some folks will consider that knowledge threatening, whether they are gun people or non-gun people. There are lots of "pro-gun" folks that don't understand one's need for concealed carry.
 
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I simply cannot imagine visiting another home and giving my gun to the host. That honestly seems very, very odd to me. If someone came to my home and asked me to hold his gun for him, I would immediately become suspicious and want to know his motivation. At the moment I have no idea what a satisfactory answer could be, and I strongly suspect I would decline - if not ask him to leave.
 
The few people Im close to all carry guns, and I always assume they have one on when they come over. Im sure they think the same when I go over to their places too.

Its just a gun, and not the only weapon most of us have on us either. What next, knives, multitools, saps, etc? Turn out your pockets? Pull down your pants, pull up your pats legs? Here, put these cuffs on so you're less dangerous?

Its just a gun. ;)
 
The law in Arkansas is that when carrying concealed into a private residence, you must inform the owner or head of household. That lets the resident decide how to deal with your carry. Of course, Arkansas is also a Constitutional Carry state, so you can carry open or concealed without a license. The only folks who know of the law are those that took the mandatory class to get a carry license and paid attention. (I have talked to several folks, active shooters in advanced class, with CHCL who were not aware of the requirement.)

I have a good friend who likes to go shooting with me, but as a physician is also wary of carried guns. I asked him and his wife if he minded that I come into their home armed. She was just fine with it, but he hemmed and hawed trying to avoid answering. For him, I lock my carry gun in a lockbox in my trunk at their home. Thus, even if miscreants broke into the car, they would be unlikely to get it from the box cable-locked into the trunk.

As for turning a gun over to the resident, no way! That just results in unnecessary handling of a loaded gun by a person who admits to being uncomfortable about guns.
 
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