Nature Boy
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One thing I’ve gotten from this thread is I’ve added “meat target” to my lexicon
The purpose of this round is not to be cheaper or easier to produce than the 9x19. I predict if anything it will be more expensive; it could be the same price, more likely to be more expensive since it is not a round that is internationally produced by nearly every ammo maker in the world. It is intended to deliver near 9x19 performance in a smaller package.The whole purpose of the round is to be cheaper and easier to produce, with 9mm performance.
Make it cheaper than 9mm, and it'll sell.
That's why the 9mm fans are so threatened by it. It illustrates the real reason 9mm is the most popular, not the reason they've been trying to believe for decades.
If 30sc has low recoil and more capacity, that's nice to.
The purpose of this round is not to be cheaper or easier to produce than the 9x19. I predict if anything it will be more expensive; it could be the same price, more likely to be more expensive since it is not a round that is internationally produced by nearly every ammo maker in the world. It is intended to deliver near 9x19 and performance in a smaller package.
The purpose of this round is not to be cheaper or easier to produce than the 9x19. I predict if anything it will be more expensive; it could be the same price, more likely to be more expensive since it is not a round that is internationally produced by nearly every ammo maker in the world. It is intended to deliver near 9x19 performance in a smaller package.
And you believe that!
here are the 380, 30SC, and 9x19.
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SGA price
mag tech 9x19 is $0.40/round
PMC 380ACP per round $0.50
on Ammoseek
30SC the cheapest was $1.20 per round from AmmoFast
On a slightly earlier post I said:[Yeah, cause 380 is made and sold in the same quantities as 9mm.] You minus well have combined the cost difference of .223 and .300 win magnum. Low volume rounds cost more. Nothing new there.
If they scale up production of 30SC to 9mm levels, it'll be cheaper. And if it's cheaper, it'll catch on. And every fan, will make every single darn excuse under the sun why they switched to it, except for the actual one. It's cheaper.
The purpose of this round is not to be cheaper or easier to produce than the 9x19. I predict if anything it will be more expensive; it could be the same price, more likely to be more expensive since it is not a round that is internationally produced by nearly every ammo maker in the world. It is intended to deliver near 9x19 performance in a smaller package.
I am an admitted capacity junkie, which is why I went with the P365 with the 12-round magazines.
With such a small case volume and the primary tool used by high volume shooters (Dillon 550/650) capable of about +/- .15 grains of powder at best, it is going to be difficult to get the tolerance of the thrown charges down to a low enough value to ensure a low velocity spread which is one of the components of an accurate load.
I like my .38 Super just fine. There are just too many calibers nowadays, but I'm an old guy and set in my ways.