Whats the best lie you had a gun seller tell you

I was in a gun shop near my house looking at holsters for ccw. Salesman told me that I didnt need one all I had to do was shove it down the front of my pants and cinch up my belt tighter. He also said to wrap a red rubber band around the barrel so if I had to draw on a BG he would think it was a toy and be distracted long enough for me to get a shot off first.

"You can hit a deer in the hip with a .300 Win Mag and spin it around so fast that it will break its neck."

Yeah right.

I wont say the shops name only because ive purchased other firearms from them, but the manager who took trades told me that my Smith and Wesson 642 was not worth 75$...........................

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There is no such thing as honesty and credibility when you are dealing with the majority of the local gun shops. One local dealer appraised my unfired NIB 1965 S&W 27-2 .357 serial #S254XXX in the wooden presentation case at $200 and $225.00 with the box of ammo that came with it in 1965. He also stated that there was not a big market for this style wheel gun. The gun sold the first day on Gun Broker at the $1400 asking price.

frankiestoys said:

I wont say the shops name only because ive purchased other firearms from them, but the manager who took trades told me that my Smith and Wesson 642 was not worth 75$ because it had been fired( less then 300 rounds) and people only bought those guns for carry so he couldnt get much for it. DUH! All the reason why. I was looking to replace it with the new LCR i still have it, and now it sits in my end table.
The gun looks and fires like new but some people will say anything to get a deal.

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I will give you $250 for it sight unseen. Let me know where to send the FFL card.

Was looking at a Les Baer TRS and the sales man told me he had a stock SA TRP that would shoot circles around andy Les Baer made. Ha Ha.

enerum said:

It's a strawman transaction."

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straw purchase perhaps lol

I tried to trade a NIB Winchester Model 94 30/30 for a concealed carry pistol a while back. I was told that the shop manager wouldnt approve the trade because "no one buys lever actions anymore, in this day and age of gun bans everyone is climbing over each other to buy AK's and AR15's while they can still purchase them legally".

Was looking at a Les Baer TRS and the sales man told me he had a stock SA TRP that would shoot circles around andy Les Baer made. Ha Ha.

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I would buy that line. Why would a salesman try to swing you on a less expensive gun?

I would buy that line. Why would a salesman try to swing you on a less expensive gun?

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Margin might be better.
The TRP really is a pretty awesome gun. Both it and the Les Baer are probably just about equally more accurate than most anyone will ever shoot them, though I'd imagine the Les Baer would be nicer

He also said to wrap a red rubber band around the barrel so if I had to draw on a BG he would think it was a toy and be distracted long enough for me to get a shot off first.

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HAHAHAHA,,,REALLY??? Im sorry...that just takes the cake...

The store I went to is a SA authorized dealer and they sell more SA than any other store in this area. Any time you look at a smith 1911, Colt , Kimber, or Les Baer, they always say the same thing. SA is best on the market. I agree SA builds a good 1911 but they are NOT the best on the market.

This thread serves to remind me that finding a good gun shop is a bit like finding an honest lawyer. There's a joint up the street from me that has a Norinco SKS carbine ont he rack for a thousand dollars. Free market, I suppose somebody might even buy it.

Like other posters I've had some insulting offers around town when looking to sell. It's accepted if you want to sell a gun in a hurry you're going to take the bite, and accept wholesale price, but not necessarily wholesale larceny. I was once offered $75.00 by a local dealer on a very sweet, lightly used 686 in 4", "take it or leave it". Needless to say I left it.

I think the baldest outright lie I've ever heard, some fellow tried to pass a Tula Mosin off on me as "never fired", the barrel looked like a meteor had been through it, and the bolt didn't match. Nice

I agree SA builds a good 1911 but they are NOT the best on the market.

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Who do you think builds the best weapon? For darn sure it is not Glock. Every real gunsmith that I have had the plesure to talk guns with have stated that the Springfields are the best weapons made today. I have several SA, S&W, Colt and Kimbers and IMO are all better than any other gun produced. This based on reliability, and accuracy. I no longer have a Glock in my collection because of their tendency to KaBoom( catastrophic failure) and which I experienced first hand on my second trip to the range with a G22. In more than 50 years of shooting this was the first catastrophic weapons failure that I have experienced and hopefully my last.

I think he was comparing Springfield Armory 1911s to 1911s made by Ed Brown, Les Baer and so on.

The store I went to is a SA authorized dealer and they sell more SA than any other store in this area. Any time you look at a smith 1911, Colt , Kimber, or Les Baer, they always say the same thing. SA is best on the market. I agree SA builds a good 1911 but they are NOT the best on the market.

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I would say that they are the best 1911, FOR THE MONEY, on the market. Yes a Les Baer is much nicer, in terms of fit, finish, and shiny doodas, but as far as accuracy and reliability, SA 1911s are neck and neck with guns priced 3x higher. I would even rank the higher end SAs over some of the newer Kimbers in terms of fit and finish, and they cost less too.

Who do you think builds the best weapon?

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As far as a handgun, I believe it is HK hands down. My HK USP has never let me down in any way.

Here is another. Again, not a lie but ignorance.

Me: May I please see that Colt New Service?
Clerk: Oh no, that is not new, it is used.

not at the shop but at the range. I saw a PSL (romanian) that you can tell by the immediate magazine release instead of the 2-3" apart of the Dragunov - from the trigger guard. It was on the rack, with no mags so i can't see the X mark mag instead of the waffle. But from the wood and the mag release i know it's a PSL.
So i asked the owner, "hey, that's a nice looking PSL" in which he replied "nah man, it's a Dragunov". I don't know if the seller sold him that and he thought he was buying a Drag or he knew what it was and was just looking for the "ooohh and ahhhs". I politely excused myself and chuckle.

Beretta dosent make firearms in the USA, lol. I also heard once that FN 5.7 Pistols are illegal.

I know exactly what you are talking about. It seems like lately shops hire people with a good line but not much on knowledge. I once had been on a bird hunt near a town several hours from my home town. It was one those days I had forgot that one important item, my ammo. I went in asking for 2 3/4 6 shot. The guy told me that I needed 3 1/2 inch. I said not I have a Rem 870 wingmaster not rated for 3 1/2 inch. He said yes 3 1/2 inch. If I was not in rush to meet he rest of the group I would have left. Instead we went back and forth. He then said sorry I can not sell you ammo that I know is wrong for your gun. I had to go out to the truck and bring my shotgun just to prove my point. At this point I just did not want to be told wrong. After showing it to him said oh sorry you must have got a custom one. I then asked for the right size. He said sorry I only have 3 1/2 in stock. Again he just wanted to sell me what he had. I have had this type of thing happen over and over through the years. I have rently been working with a company called Personal Choice Outfitters, www.personalchoiceoutfitters.com . They seem to a newly established company and do not have much on their site yet, but the people here really know their products. I have both emailed and called them and have had received great info. They even helped me date an old single shot rifle my father gave me. They helped me find original parts. I was surprised because they did not have much on the website, but ordered me what ever I wanted for much less then I saw anywhere else. No lies for those sales people.

"That's a good price for that Taurus 840!"
The guns price was $600.

More than $500 for this piece is too much.

I work at a gun/pawn shop and i must tell you i go to all the local gunshops in my area and wonder why the hell are they still in business. i dont bs people about the products i sell and i sure as hell dont try to sell a gun that obviously isnt the right one for the customer. i know what dealer cost is on most guns and it still sickens me to see gun shop owners price a moisin nagant at 225 when they paid 75 bucks shipped and then the ***** has the audacity to tell me its a rare all matching winchester made nagant when it has a big cai stamp on it. ticks me off too

guy came into a local shop trying to sell an LCP he had picked up a couple months earlier (pre recall gun in the post recall period) when the shop owner told him he could only put about 200 into the gun as he had well under 300 in a new one and that one needed to be sent back to ruger anyway the guy looked shocked... according to him he had paid "500" for it new and couldnt take less than that for it now... laughed as he walked out of the shop... saw a "NEW IN BOX LCP in the local "buy sell" magazine for $550.


great deal for a 300 dollar gun...

what's wrong with the Taurus 800 series? Have you fired one or simply basing your response on Taurus hate.

Chuckusaret. I stated that SA makes a good 1911 but they are NOT the best on the market. If you look on Hilton Yams web site he states he prefers to work of a Colt platform. I agree. I think Colt makes the best production 1911 on the market. They use less MIM parts and their guns also go bang every time you pull the trigger. I only speak from my own experiances with both but I too own SA , Colt, Les baer, and Nighthawk. If I were to buy a production 1911, it would be a Colt. I also believe Glocks are the best combat handgun on the market followed closely by the 1911. I realize you had a bad experiance with you're
glock, but all 7 of mine have been good OTB. I think SA custom shop is one of the best out there including Baer, Brown , Wilson , or Nighthawk. Have you ever owned a Baer? There is a big Diff between a Baer and a SA production gun. I like the TRP but it isn't on the same level as a Baer or any other semi ccustome maker. If you think it is , good. You can save you're self some money. I don't . I'm not trying to be confrontational. I just answered the OP with my experiance at a local gunshop . If you feel differentlly from me then ok. It's America and you can have any oppinion you want.