Do you ever "make" someone carrying? Let's experiment.

Made a chick in walmart....wasn't even trying to hide her big auto..huge bulge in tee shirt...turns out my wife knew her..off duty cop.
made a guy at a local chinese buffett, his grip was showing, think he had an IWB holster....I walked up and said."your j-frame is peeking" he said thanks, "I'm a cop" I said"under cover?" he said "apparently not."

Most I have seen are LEO's. IMO too many of us assume any fanny pack has a gun in it. If it is true than 2 years ago in the Summer time in Ole SA TX everyone over 50 was packing. I only caught 3 non leos and it was seeing the edge of holster or the printing of the handle. As I have shared before I wore my 40 in a slide holster into a Convience Store on a road trip with out my cover jacket and no one even blinked. But I have been accused of being a LEO or Military.

I was around some Secret Service agents (I cannot disclose where) who were standing there, hands crossed in front of them, long raincoats on, indoors, earbud, raincoat kind of puffed out on one side, like something long was under there.

Let's just say, I am positive they had more than just a handgun on them.

I'm in the minority here, but it's very easy for me to see people concealed carrying. As mentioned above not every fanny pack has a gun in it, but many do. Carrying your wallet in your front jeans pocket is a clue. (Read LCP or P3AT) Wearing a jacket or a photography vest on a hot day. You never know for sure, but you can tell once you know what to look for.

I carry my wallet in my front pocket where a gun will go whenever I can start to CC.

I saw one guy at Target once wearing BDU desert camo pants (This is New Hampshire so thats out of place.) and had a fanny pack in front and I'm pretty sure he was carrying.

I make guys all of the time. Part of that is because of WA's laws. We're open carry so people don't have to try hard.

But last night in a supermarket I spied a rather clean cut fellow with jeans, a tucked in button up shirt, and a huge print on his 4 o'clock.

I've only made someone once at Publix, but he was OC'ing. Never made anyone CC'ing. I don't think I've ever been made either, although I used to be very paranoid when I first started carrying.

It's harder to tell nowadays with all of the electronic devices showing a rectangular shape on belts and in pockets.

I don't make a big effort but I've not spotted one in the six years so that I've had my permit. However...my wife has scored two in two years. Go figure.

Mark

If its someone I know and they print their piece, I grab right on to it (if its in appropriate setting) and pull it all out sorts so they have to go redress. They hate to see me coming, but it has made people close to me carry a lot more concealed.

They hate to see me coming

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That might be your first signal to rethink this practice

Yep in the South that would get you a fist or elbow in the mouth. Touching my piece is almost as bad a touching my woman or disrespecting my Mother.

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Yep, I personally would rather a friend pointed out that I'm printing......... rather than grabbing at it. Just a thought.

Never ever, ever have I seen anyone CC or OC.

very boring I know.

Come to think of it, I've had a LTCF and have yet to carry either

Once. Very large man wearing an outdated pager. But the pager, and pants underneath, mysteriously gravitated away from his body by about the width of a large frame auto.

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If its someone I know and they print their piece, I grab right on to it (if its in appropriate setting) and pull it all out sorts so they have to go redress. They hate to see me coming, but it has made people close to me carry a lot more concealed.

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Reckless, rude, and very poor judgment. Much poorer judgment than one should have with regard to any handling of a firearm. I suggest you rethink this practice before you win yourself a darwin award.

The entire premise of this thread is based in the assumption that being seen with a weapon is somehow “wrong” akin to being seen naked. Concealed carry laws were invented as an attempt by state and local governments to circumvent the Second Amendment. They have nothing to do with morality or right and wrong. Being seen with a weapon is no more “evil” than being seen with a Bible, a newspaper or any other constitutionally guaranteed item. I want bad people to assume that I am armed and nothing says “pick an easier victim” than a visible side arm. In fact I make a point to flash my .45 in front of potential miscreants along with a hard look that says "back off or I will kill you".

Boy this thread is full of winners, isn't it?

I have never made anybody in about 8 years of carrying. If you don't see a gun, a holster, or a VERY clear print, you don't know for sure that a bulge is a gun.

I've carried my wallet in my front pocket my whole life. It has always "printed", and has never been a gun.

I think it is roughly about 1% of the population that has a carry permit? If half those people carry (I have no idea what this stat actually is) the chances that you have seen someone carrying any time you go anywhere with any number of people are actually fairly significant. That would be one out of every 200 in the scenario above. I would bet that many of us see at least 200 strangers during the course of an average day.

Can't say for sure I have seen anyone who was CCing. (And I was very concerned when I started carrying.)
Funny, my uncle was talking to me about concealing a full size pistol last week. (Walther P99 in my case.) At any rate he thought it would be better to carry a compact than fullsize. That said, we spent most of the day at Thanksgiving together. So I asked him, was I printing at Thanksgiving? He had no idea I was carrying at Thanksgiving. To me, that is the litmus test. If he couldn't tell, and he knows me, then the average person will not be able to tell unless they bump up against me. - NOBODY, but my wife gets that close. (Just sayin.)
Incidentally, Fieldstone... Kind of glad you aren't a close friend. I'd hate to lose you. (I am from the south.)

ive spotted a few in the 4 years ive carried. one guy at the carwash today with a FN on his hip.

but then again i just went and got dinner with my new SA on my hip, i could tell someone saw it by the look on their face. it feels weird to OC when i have a permit.

Do you ever "make" someone carrying?

I have. After 42 yrs in LE you look for stuff like that. I was in a tire store about 3 weeks ago and one of the young men working behind the corner was wearing jeans. His small auto was clearly imprinting in his right rear pocket. He was surprised I noticed-I asked him was he was carrying. It was cheap 380. He liked my Kel-Tec PF9, it was smaller than his 380 and he almost messed his pants when I showed him my G21 inside my belt! The only time I was ever asked about my CW was on a traffic stop where I assisted a lone officer and after his back up unit arrived he asked me if I was armed. ID'd myself and all was sweetness & light.

It is an assumption, some people with guns on the mind are more likely to assume it is a gun.
This includes those that carry concealed and police officers.


The truth is most bulges you see, even at locations where people carry, will be cell phones.


I remember the officer sure he saw someone carrying, who grabbed a guy's colostomy bag.




You will think you see people carrying all the time that are not. You will think you see their gun even when they are carrying a gun in another position and in the perceived observed position they are actually carrying a pocket knife, a cell phone, flash light, etc While the gun is in a different place, not at the printing bulge you see.




This is like LEOitis, where the cop who deals with scumbags on a regular basis has come to expect every 'suspicious' person they see is up to the worst possible scenario, when 90% of them are not.
A bunch of concealed carry holders think someone is carrying a gun because they have a bulge or clothing sticks in a position that would be convenient for a gun.
But the same positions are convenient for all sorts of items.



Personally I think it is rude to draw attention to something someone has chosen to conceal if they are in fact carrying. Whether staring at the suspected location drawing the eyes of other people to it, or mentioning it to them like you are their buddy in conversation others can hear.
This is especially true in a place that allows open carry. If they chose to conceal it maybe they don't want others around they deal with regularly made aware of their gun.
That guy may have to work with people on a regular basis he didn't want knowing he was carrying. He may have employers or employees he didn't want aware of his carrying. He may have friends or family or other companions he didn't want knowing he was carrying.
Ousting what appears to be a responsible person with a firearm when you know carrying is legal is rude.
Anyone that started trying to talk about a clearly concealed carry piece with me openly in front of others would be deemed to have no manners and lose a lot of respect.
If someone chooses to announce it to you as some do, then feel free to discuss it.

Do you ever made someone posting on the high roading?

Why would I make someone carry a weapon? JK, but never heard of such an expression.

Is this some kind of lingo they tell you about when you get a ccw permit?

Why would I make someone carry a weapon? JK, but never heard of such an expression.

Is this some kind of lingo they tell you about when you get a ccw permit?

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"Make" is in reference to discovering them, finding out their secret.
Discovering an undercover officer would be similar.
You made the officer, you identified them undercover.
Like if you "made" a spy.
You discovered the spy, or someone else trying to hide an identity.
Or perhaps a security detail trying to keep a low profile, or investigator. You have observed some clue or presence that reveals an identity that the individual has tried to conceal.

The term has come to be used by people to describe discovering others carrying concealed, because by obtaining a permit they have become aware that such a world of people carrying guns in everyday society exists.
Of course blowing their cover for no other reason than just to demonstrate your self perceived superior skills of observation often shows a lack of maturity.
But some don't realize that and think it creates a comradery, identifying another special member of the 'concealed gun club' and sparking up a conversation about it in front of others.

I should add that the motivation may be good natured, with a friendly intent, but its immature to tell others about someone else's private information just because you discover or think you have discovered it. Unless you think they pose a risk or potential risk and are telling someone else to keep an eye out, bringing attention to a responsible individual carrying in a way that is clearly intended to be private and is unknown to others around is bad manners.

Hey LEO's! Not every bulge is a firearm.

For a funny go to youtube and search

"cop mistakes penis for a weapon"