Obligation to Disclose That You Carry When at Someone's House

[DasFriek]

If my gun isn't welcome in their house than neither am I.
But i don't make a point of letting anyone know i do carry, Even family. But most of my family are hunters and also have their CHL also.

Twisted nursery rhyme:

DasFriek had a Blacked out 1911,
Blacked out 1911, Blacked out 1911,
DasFriek had a Blacked out 1911,
whose rounds where big as heck.
And everywhere that DasFriek went,
DasFriek went, DasFriek went,
and everywhere that DasFriek went,
the Blacked out 1911 was sure to go.

It followed him to his relatives house one day
relatives house one day,relatives house one day,
It followed him to his relatives house one day,
which may have been against the rules.
But It made the adults ask to hold and dry fire it,
hold and dry fire it, hold and dry fire it,
it made the adults ask to hold and dry fire it,
to see a 1911 so sweet.

And so the anti got upset,
anti got upset, anti got upset,
And so the anti got upset,
Cause the blacked out 1911 proved it wouldn't kill on its own,
And proved it wouldn't kill on its own,
proved it wouldn't kill on its own, proved it wouldn't kill on its own,
And proved it wouldn't kill on its own.
till DasFriek did needed to protect his and loved ones lives.

"Why does the 1911 protect DasFriek so?"
Protect DasFriek so? Protect DasFriek so?
"Why does the 1911 Protect DasFriek so,"
the eager gun lovers asked.
"Why, DasFriek loves the 1911, you know."
The 1911, you know, the 1911, you know,
"Why, DasFriek loves the 1911, you know,"
So the anti went away.

 

[Joe Demko]

NO, it's not that simple. If they are concealed properly, you won't know they are packing. They won't know this is one of "your rules"...so then what? Do you throw them out claiming that they are breaking your, unknown to them, house rules? It must be such a scene.

My rules are in the first post at the top of page 6. Did you read it? Nobody has made a scene so far. Guests take their shoes off and the ones who smoke join me on the porch. I know that doesn't dovetail with how you would prefer things to be for the sake of you being able to put your personal preferences above those of your host, but there you go. As mcdonl was kind enough to explain to you, I don't prohibit carry in my house; I honor the wishes of those who do in their houses. It's that whole personal honor and not wanting to be a weasel (good word!) thing, you see.

 

[whalerman]

I think we're back to the beginning on this one. If a person carries as a regular part of their day, it is very difficult to understand this line of conversation. I do not take polls of how people feel when entering a residence. I do not disclose to anyone my carry status, unless that is part of a mutual conversation that all are involved with. If a friend makes his views known that he doesn't want weapons near his person, I make sure I do not carry in his home. Sometimes, I'm disinclined to return to that home, but that's another topic altogether. But I don't tell him/her anything about my carry status. Maybe this is based on the fact that I carry concealed for my work as LEO. This entire line of discussion is foreign to me.

I can offer this example for consideration. It is not a perfect analogy, but it could help a bit for some. A couple decades ago, some nations made it their policy not to allow nuclear armed US Navy vessels into their harbors. To my knowledge, our government accepted these "notices" as legitimate decisions made by the host nations. However, we never adopted a policy of either announcing beforehand which ships were so armed nor would we answer questions about the status of individual ships. I'm not sure if that policy has changed but that is the way it stood for many years.

 

[CZguy]

I can offer this example for consideration. It is not a perfect analogy, but it could help a bit for some. A couple decades ago, some nations made it their policy not to allow nuclear armed US Navy vessels into their harbors. To my knowledge, our government accepted these "notices" as legitimate decisions made by the host nations. However, we never adopted a policy of either announcing beforehand which ships were so armed nor would we answer questions about the status of individual ships. I'm not sure if that policy has changed but that is the way it stood for many years.

Now that is a good analogy.

 

[Ryanxia]

I CC everywhere.
I don't let anyone know (I would reconsider if I were an overnight guest and knew they didn't care for firearms)
I would want to know if someone were CCing at my house if they were drinking. Otherwise I'd want to know just so we could talk shop

 

[leadcounsel]

Once we, as gun owners, stop treating firearms differently than other personal property, the better off we will be.

Yep.

 

[Sniper X]

That sign kinda backfired didn't mr gun hater!?

I use to drive by this house down in the student ghetto every once in a while. It is the VERY liberal part of town for many reasons, University area, and Santa Fe and California Transplants abound. During a campaign time ALL signs proudly displayed are for the Democrats. Anyway, saw a house with a proudly displayed sign for the latest demo and a BIG sign next to it, sign said "This house is a GUN FREE ZONE!" I joked with the person I was going to lunch that it might as well say STEAL EVERYTHING I OWN. We had a little chuckle as we both carry.

About a week ago I heard they were victems of a home invasion where the perps took every bit of belongings that had any worth including their heirlooms and even china. I heard there was about 140K worth of stuff stolen.


I guess the sign worked in a different manner than intended. And although I am not happy they got ripped off, I can say the sign no longer is in the front yard!

 

[Broken Anvil]

Like my daddy said to me many years ago," Regardless of the law....I don't carry no more and I don't carry no less". He passed away this year at 81 years old.....I miss him.

 

[Voimakas]

Sniper X,

On the other hand, I wouldn't want a sign saying that I owned weapons or that my house was protected by Smith and Wesson or something similar. That's just begging for people to be like "Hey, let's wait for them to not be home, break in, and we have firearms!" You know they sell quite well on the street.

 

[CZguy]

Like my daddy said to me many years ago," Regardless of the law....I don't carry no more and I don't carry no less". He passed away this year at 81 years old.....I miss him.

Sounds like a wise man.

Sorry for your loss.

 

[Lou McGopher]

If they don't ask me before I enter whether or not I have a gun, I'm going to assume it's not a big enough issue for them either way. If they say they don't want it in their home, then I won't bring it in. But I'm not going to treat the firearm differently than any other issue. I handle it this way because, to my knowledge, my friends and most of the people in my area do not have a custom of demanding guests refrain from bringing firearms for personal protection into the home.

So if there is no explicit statement beforehand as to what the host wants, I would go with whatever is customary in your area, or among the culture of your host (if known). If you are in doubt, and feel that they could have a problem with the presence of the firearm should they become aware of it, then ask, and if you don't like the answer, feel free to leave.

 

[Sniper X]

voim, that is how I feel too. I prefer to stay mute on the topic if in the city, which is why i CCW as well. Now up on my land, and around my land EVERYONE open carries. And NO ONE comes up here to break into houses!