ATTENTION GLOCK FANS M&P making us look bad

Glocks are certainly not better. They were innovative, but now S&W has out-Glocked the Glock.

grayhambone said:

These M&P fans are making us look bad....

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uhhh...What?

It isn't healthy to define yourself my the things you own.

S&W has out-Glocked the Glock.

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Now thats funny!

Now we all know that glocks are obviously better but lets see why

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i know that you're sorta kidding, but Glocks have stopped being the "the best" for a long time now--yeah Glock started something big back around 1980, but that design has remained virtually unchanged since then, and there are now many better options available.

people will keep buying Glocks because of the name, but the quality and price of a new Glock has not been worth it for at least the past 5 years...JMHO

Never hated on glock...just never shot them well...Me+Glocks grip angle = Bad shooting! Other than that I do love the glock story and how they rewrote pistol history being the first polymer pistol that was more reliable then any other pistol in history!

Sorry, I'm on the iPod so no pics right now. I will probably always choose Glocks as a primary duty pistol as long as I have the choice, and I'm switching to a G27 soon for off duty. That all said, I think Glock has lost their top spot in the world. I think they are well established to keep going for a very long time, but they need to do some more innovating to stay competative.

Well when it comes to concealibilty the Glock definitely "out-glocks" the M&P...

S&W does NOT support the LEO community like Glock does. Got personal experience with this one. They do make some fine handguns though. Got an M&P and like the ergonomics, but overall I like Glock better. I prefer a striker pistol that is not fully cocked all the time.

Glock grip angle. I keep hearing that. I shoot Glocks, CZ's, BHP's, S&W 3rd gen autos, Walther P99, 1911's........well, you get it. I never have a problem with any of them. The grips are different. I just adapt. Don't own an M&P yet, but why would I need to? Will it do something that a Glock WON'T do?

I don't need to take pictures of my Glock to know it's a great gun. I also don't need 8 pages of 'reviews' to convince me they're great guns, either.

S&W does NOT support the LEO community like Glock does.

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All fairness to S&W, Glock charges about $400 to LEO and upwards of $600 for civilians. M&P's are sold fairly cheap and does not raise the price for civilians by about another $200 or so. I say that because all us Glock owners know that Glocks are way over priced for the same gun that's been running for almost 3 decades.

Glocks are certainly not better.

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Are too.

Know of any M&Ps with a million rounds through them? Hmmm?

Only Glock fans can make Glock fans look bad.

I am a fan of both. I currently own Glocks right now but I do want an M&P9L and an M&P9c as well. I have heard the trigger on the M&P leaves a lot to be desired. When I buy mine I will be installing APEX kits in them. But both have reputations for reliability. The DEA tested both brands extensively and they both performed well. At this point it comes down to Glock or Smith and Wesson being very nearly the same. One has better ergonomics but less support for customers and parts are not as widely available. The other is the opposite. So pick your poison.

Hamburger said:

All fairness to S&W, Glock charges about $400 to LEO and upwards of $600 for civilians.

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Most Glock models are $499 all day, every day, 'round here.

I paid $480+tax for my M&P9.

Hamburger said:

I say that because all us Glock owners know that Glocks are way over priced for the same gun that's been running for almost 3 decades.

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Figuring for inflation, Glocks are still pretty cheap.
$499 in 2010=$263.53 in 1987

Anyone remember what a G17 cost when they debuted?

I think the XD on the civilian market is in third place and quickly gaining ground. I've been seeing more and more of them and seen a lot more XD's then M&Ps at my shooting range.

Oh yeah, Glocks aren't the best by the way, sorry to break it to you.

What is the new trigger I keep hearing about on the M&P? This is the second time I have heard this. Are they just having APEX install them at the factory?

Bought a 10mm yesterday....in FDE.

FIVETWOSEVEN said:

I think the XD on the civilian market is in third place and quickly gaining ground. I've been seeing more and more of them and seen a lot more XD's then M&Ps at my shooting range.

Oh yeah, Glocks aren't the best by the way, sorry to break it to you.

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I pull my glock out and pull the trigger with confidence that bullets will come out the end and go whatever I aim. How does the Croatian wornder with a bunch of superfluous crap added do any better?

Oh! I know it's because rob latham spends a couple hours a week on guntalk shilling for the Slavic special.

I'm eternally amused at how the hs2000 was widely regarded as a flaming piece of poo until S.A. comes along and starts marketing the thing and VIOLA the best handgun ever. Used by militaries and police agencies all across Croatia .


The s&w m&p is an impressive pistol. But the fact remains that it doesn't do a darn thing even the oldest gen1 glock doesn't do. 30years to improve on the original glock design and what do we have from glock and its competition today as an improvement? The interchangeable backstrap. THATS IT!

so for me the glock is still on top. They set the bar and in 30 years it has yet to be raised.

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