2012 Shortage/Hoarding Mega Thread

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SabbathWolf,

What you described isn't at all unreasonable. I have thousands of rounds of ammo on hand, and thousands of primers on hand. I shoot regularly, and I resupply regularly. And, some of my routines aren't all that different from yours. I know many shooters like this, and many of these shooters have been doing this for many years.

The hoarding issue we've seen lately is an entirely different animal. I've routinely seen people clean out the shelves "just in case". Some of the people during the 2008 panic were buying up ammo for guns that they didn't even own, and didn't even have plans to own. One guy I spoke with had 500,000 primers on hand at his house, after having bought every primer he could find from every local store (I'm sure he'll go through those quickly).

Sure, the free market works like that. But, I don't think many of us are out of line for being a bit miffed at the fact that an artificial panic has made it hard to buy the stuff we normally buy and use.
 
coloradokevin said:
SabbathWolf,

What you described isn't at all unreasonable. I have thousands of rounds of ammo on hand, and thousands of primers on hand. I shoot regularly, and I resupply regularly. And, some of my routines aren't all that different from yours. I know many shooters like this, and many of these shooters have been doing this for many years.

The hoarding issue we've seen lately is an entirely different animal. I've routinely seen people clean out the shelves "just in case". Some of the people during the 2008 panic were buying up ammo for guns that they didn't even own, and didn't even have plans to own. One guy I spoke with had 500,000 primers on hand at his house, after having bought every primer he could find from every local store (I'm sure he'll go through those quickly).

Sure, the free market works like that. But, I don't think many of us are out of line for being a bit miffed at the fact that an artificial panic has made it hard to buy the stuff we normally buy and use.
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Wow.....

When you describe it like that, then yes, I can see your complaint.
I don't go out and buy a bunch of ammo in a caliber I don't even shoot!
That's pretty crazy.
lol....
I knew there were some nut balls out there, but I've never experienced anything like the level you are talking about around here.
I stand corrected!

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9mm

Here in Las Vegas 9mm is getting hard to find.
The Bass Pro shop, in the last few months, has only gotten in small supplies and those are bought up the same day.
Same thing with 40 !
Went to a couple of Walmarts, one was completely out and the other had only 9 boxes of Winchester 100/box..
I used to buy a couple of boxes at a time, just enough to use.
Now I'll buy 5 - 10 boxes at a time.
And thats exactly what everyone else is doing !!!
As the shortage rumor gets around its going to get worse.
Whether we like it or not a sever shortage is coming.
Because of the internet, any rumor is instantly broadcasted to the world.
Everyone becomes aware of it.
twenty years ago, rumors had no where to go !!!
 
Cheaper than dirt has a great deal on PMC in 556 and 223, I just picked some up, the email went out yesterday, I was surprised that they had any left. Wallmart didn't even have any in the warehouse, they checked for me. The ammo counter was very scarce, for the first time in a long time. You may want to check Dirt out as two days ago they had almost nothing in stock.
 
So far I've only checked that one Sportsman's Warehouse store. The situation may prove to be unique to them, since their inventory control has never seemed to be the greatest. Hopefully I'll find what I need at other local stores, and hopefully the fools among us won't strip the shelves bare for another year, yet again.
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Nope, try and find the bulk Hornady .224 55gr FMJBT in stock anywhere online.
 
Chinamart will offically mark the panic, when they limit the amount customers can buy.
 
Ryanxia said:
Wow why don't we let these threads die?
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Because if we let a thread die just because one or two people can't contain themselves to the point that they post in a thread they're not interested in implying that nobody else should be interested in it either, then we would never talk about anything. I've come across VERY few threads ANYWHERE that don't have at least one person coming in to muck it up with complaints about the topic, or other off-topic crud like your comment.

Personally I have a feeling we'll see gas rationing again. That will result in MUCH higher prices for everything including ammo.
 
Rail Driver said:
...Personally I have a feeling we'll see gas rationing again. That will result in MUCH higher prices for everything including ammo...
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Same here actually, and I don't think it's going to be pretty.

Our economy is much more fragile now than it was back in the 70's. And the 70's was truly bad enough already.
When things finally come to a head with all this over-spending and massive debt, we are in for one heck of a crash and burn not like anything we've ever seen before. It will be UGLY!

I predict closer to the Great Depression vs the 70's.
 
All seems normal here in the Great White North.
Just south of the border in NY the local Gander Mountain has fully stocked shelves.
palettes of ammo cans full of .223 etc.
 
Went to the local Farm n Fleet yesterday hoping to get some .30-30, .22lr and 9mm ammo.

Nope.

NO .30-30 or 9mm on the shelves and Remington Golden Bullet bulk packs (They still had Winchester bulk packs but I've never tried them and I wasn't about to switch brands since I still have a few boxes of RGBs left) were all sold out. Other pistol calibers were available and some rifle ammo was available too. Not sure why .30-30 was sold out...strange. Couldn't find any .45 auto either.

Most of the shelf space was devoted to shotgun ammo due to the Spring Turkey Season and the local sporting clays and trap season kicking off. But I think the relative scarcity of 9mm and .45 (there were a few boxes of .380 and .40sw left) is a sign of things to come.

I had to leave the store completely empty-handed. Disappointing, to say the least.
 
I remember last Christmas in Norway, they had a butter shortage. I think it was contrived via taxation or who even knows? They are still alive.
Ammoe and components are still in good supply around here at reasonable prices.
 
Perhaps someone here can enlighten me regarding the marketing activities of on-line firearms dealers. And I ask this in the context of this thread:
So I've been occasionally in search of a firearm or two in the past year, so I spend some time checking out the top 10 on-line dealers. Both to compare prices and to do research about what is available for further study. When I get to these sites, the majority of advertised firearms are 'out of stock'. Followed by, 'we don't know when more are coming so don't even ask' (note the paraphrasing single quotes), or 'leave your email and we'll contact when more arrive'.
So, is this sparse availability a function of recent alleged hoarding? Or is just the practice that these vendors simply list the entire catalog of the manufacturers and never expect to actually stock or sell them?
From outward appearance, it seems like most of these folks are 'wiped clean'.
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I already grab as much ammo as I can whenever I have extra money so I guess I horde all year long lol. Like yesterday I found a decent amount of 5.7x28 for my Five-seveN and snatched up 20 boxes then today I woke up and decided i better get more so I went back and got 8 more!
 
@deadflies, thats odd because here in MN at fleet farm they have a TON of pretty much any caliber ammo you could need and at good price's too. The only things they don't carry are most of the really uncommon or unpopular calibers. They're usually always stocked up good n cheap.
 
Now I'll buy 5 - 10 boxes at a time.
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That is basically the problem and exactly what people did during the last Presidential election time frame. That compounded the problem. I still have ammo from that time period. Not going to get caught up in any "shortage" in 2012 unless I need some ammo.

I still buy when I have the funds and find decent prices. Today, I purchased 10 boxes of Federal Lightning 22LR for $1.47/box at Walmart. Picked up some Winchester too (not bulk) to have some variety. They had a little 9mm, 40 S&W, 45 LC, 38spl and 357 mag and I was "tempted" with the 40 S&W since it was not "target ammo".
 
The brass Yugo milsurp 7.62x39 is kinda officially gone. One seller on Gundeals.com has some but it's almost as pricey as WWB.:uhoh:

I bought a crate more or less just for my Mini-30. The SKS will get fed steel case. ;)

It went from $200-ish a crate to $300-ish to "gone' in about a month.
 
I stopped by the local Sportsman's Warehouse again yesterday. They had plenty of .22lr ammo, and were fairly well stocked on loaded ammo in general. Still pretty much sold out of .30 caliber bullets, and really pretty thin on primers again.

The biggest thing I remember from 2008 was the primer shortage... and those are a pain, since the hazmat fees make it expensive to buy online!
 
coloradokevin said:
The biggest thing I remember from 2008 was the primer shortage... and those are a pain, since the hazmat fees make it expensive to buy online!
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I remember the Great Primer Drought.

Now I have a goodly stash of SPP .45ACP brass so I'm pretty much GTG if it happens again. During the last drought guys were running SRP instead of SPP & it supposedly works OK.

Was in the local WallyWorld today & they seemed to have a decent supply. Nothing like the bare shelves of '09.
 
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