When purchasing a gun, have you ever been "Delayed" or "Denied"?

Even with a UPIN I still get brief delays. So far never more than a couple minutes when it's called in, usually 20-30 minutes if the FFL uses e-check. Most of the time though, it is pretty much instant.

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That's a symptom of today's expectation of things being "instant": The expectation that "instant" really does mean instantaneous, with a mere one-millisecond (or less) delay. In the Military, a "delay" is at least two hours. It's that "hurry up and wait" thing.

Agreed that people have gotten comfortable with "instant".

After reading through the posts that followed my original post, I should clarify - my situation was similar to another poster who had a pending misdemeanor, which led to being declined initially. And my "try again later" letter from the FBI specifically stated that it was because of this pending case. I shrugged it off and picked it up much later, as the LGS was 250 miles away...

Another thing that would give this poll more validity is how many firearms total purchased overall. Getting delayed or denied 1 times out of 3 purchases is one thing whereas 1 out of 50 is pretty reasonable.

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dogtown tom said

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It's saddens me that any firearms dealer would be so paranoid as to not transfer a firearm when the law does not prohibit them.

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It saddens me that so many people will do something just because the law does not forbid it.

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Something like....... buying and selling guns?
I guess that whole Bill of Rights really bums you out.

I would expect that from Mayor Bloomberg or a member of the Brady Bunch.....not from any self respecting firearms owner.

I get the standard 3 day delay per brady act.

Why?
Well, my dad has the same name as me, and he has been in federal and state trouble.
Apparently there is also a guy with the same name as me, similar birth-date that gets into some trouble a few counties north from here.

I would apply for a UPIN, but I don't like the feds digging around anymore than is already necessary. I have enough arms to where my purchases are not "critical".

One time, I didn't have to wait the 3 days. I had to wait 2...lol then I got proceeded.

I have been delayed the last two times and it started this year. Never an issue before. First time is was a day and a half. Second time was this evening. I was told that the trend they are seeing is that if you get delayed, you will keep being delayed. I hope that doesn't become the norm for me (Alabama).

Only issue I've ever had was when NIC's was down, happened only twice in all my transfers.

Never ever....of course I say that and now I will get denied every time

I have never been delayed. I have a very uncommon name.

I never have, but a former co-worker got delayed "every (colorful language deleted) time".

Seems that some ahhhhhh disreputable person with same name and only 2 digits difference in SSN had kited a bunch of checks and was otherwise generally a no-good-nik

I would apply for a UPIN, but I don't like the feds digging around anymore than is already necessary. I have enough arms to where my purchases are not "critical".

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Not trying to talk you into getting a UPIN by any means but the feds don't go digging around looking for anything when you submit a VAF application and fingerprints. They simply keep a persistent record of whatever it is that causes them to take longer to research your record than is customary. This way, when a NICS check is submitted with your UPIN, they cut to the chase; "Oh, it's YOU Bob!".

Now, if you furnish them with some ancillary information in your VAF application they DON'T know about, count on them investigating it, as they should.

I had about as weird a set of circumstances with my VAF imaginable, it took a denial and 6 months to sort out, but I have no hard feelings about it, especially since it was resolved in my favor. I was treated respectfully and professionally by the FBI and the NICS.

Are we including waiting periods for handguns here?

Many of our customers are routinely delayed, given a "T" number, and then are approved within the same day. I'm often given a T for a few hours but since I live in IL (Republik of) it is going to be a minimum of 24 hours wait anyway. No rhyme nor reason for it in most cases...sometimes the center is busy, and I no longer call in the 4473s during the lunch hour for that reason.

cia employees "always" get a delay

I was never delayed up until about 2009. I ordered a Saiga and got the 3 day delay, but the dealer never heard back from the ATF so I walked out happy. Then the next year I tried to purchase an AR and got the dreaded denial. I filled out the paperwork and sent in fingerprints. Recieved a letter stating I matched "prohibitive criteria" and that it would take 176 days for them to review. Well after I called my Congressmens office I recieved a call from the FBI about a month later and I now have a UPIN. Went back in for my AR and the UPIN went right through.

I get delayed almost everytime! I've gotten use to it tho, did miss out on my first mosin last week at a gun show cause of it tho! Did get the proceed yesterday but I'm not driving two hours for a mosin.

took longer to fill out the form than anything else. no delay. 30 minutes in and out.

Delayed

In Tx.. As a permanent resident still delayed!! First time buyer
Went last wednesday to FFl chose a glock 22, filled out 4473, dealer made a call turned my info in and further review!! She put a date on the form for tuesday and said if we dont hear anything by monday, tuesday u can come pick up your handgun!
Only question i have is let say if i go pick up on tuesday and still no response from nics and ffl will transfer it to me, after that if i get a denial what do i need to do?
Am i getting charged for possessing firearm illegally? And feds will pick me up?
I have a clean record and i meet the criteria to buy handgun legally. And since i live in an apartment with my wife i really want something for self defense, since every other day theres an aggravated robbery.
Reply will be appreciated!

To this day I still get the further review, delay thing from time to time. It always clears within 1 to 2 days. Relax, take the delay as an opportunity to do some fishing

Salman In Tx....Only question i have is let say if i go pick up on tuesday and still no response from nics and ffl will transfer it to me, after that if i get a denial what do i need to do?

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Your delay is because you are not a US citizen. Buyers who are permanent residents or in the US on a tourist visa, temporary worker visa or student visa, require NICS to contact INS to verify your immigration status. Sometimes this can take as little as fifteen minutes, or if NICS is receiving a high volume of calls......several days.

The Brady law does not prohibit (but does not require) the dealer from transferring the firearm to you after the third business day. If after the firearm has been transferred and NICS returns a "denied" result, they may ask the dealer to provide your information. The dealer will not come and get your gun, but some law enforcement agency may.

Am i getting charged for possessing firearm illegally?

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Only if you are a prohibited person.

And feds will pick me up?

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Only if you have committed a crime.

I have a clean record and i meet the criteria to buy handgun legally.

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You will be fine. To avoid the NICS check when you purchase a firearm, get your Texas Concealed Handgun License.

Never.

Sure is nice having that TX CHL.

Ooops...just realized...another necro-thread bumped back to life by yet another first time poster.
Search much????

I have been delayed once and always get sent "for further review". As a courtesy to the folks doing the calling, I always tell them to expect the further review. I even give them my SSN. However, as soon as the call gets answered (after being sent for further review) the "proceed" is almost instantaneous. It takes longer for the call to get transferred and answered than for the proceed to be given.

I have no idea why. I assume it is because I share the same name with someone or because a couple times in my past I have been investigated in order to hold a security clearance. In my early 20's I worked at a defense shop working on some pretty interesting things.

I have been looked at when I held licenses to sell insurance and I have been investigated when I worked at a bank. I was in IT and had absolutely no access to money, the processes to handle or transfer money, but because there was a vault and securities on the same floor as they put our group of programming staff, they investigated anyone new being hired in.

drcook ....I have no idea why. I assume it is because I share the same name with someone or because a couple times in my past I have been investigated in order to hold a security clearance.

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It's your name, security clearances have zilch to do with it.


On an odd note, I have a customer who is a reserve police officer and former licensed gun dealer........he's been delayed EVERY TIME for the last five years (about two transfers a month btw).

Well, Friday night his NICS check goes for further review................and he gets a proceed. He didn't believe me at first.

once the ffl gets a "delay" and 3 days expire with no update from nics, the ffl MUST transfer the weapon to you and you have LEGAL posession. NO NICS ACTION WILL FOLLOW

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once the ffl gets a "delay" and 3 days expire with no update from nics, the ffl MUST transfer the weapon to you and you have LEGAL posession. NO NICS ACTION WILL FOLLOW

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I don't believe the ffl must transfer after 3 days, he may transfer it if that's his policy.

As far as I know the ffl has the final say.

I was once delayed because someone with the same name in another state wasn't paying his child support. I got that taken care on and I have never had a problem again.