When purchasing a gun, have you ever been "Delayed" or "Denied"?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by JohnGault, Feb 29, 2012.

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Have you been "Delayed" or "Denied".

Poll closed Mar 30, 2012.
  1. Yes, less than a day.

    24 vote(s)
    14.5%
  2. Yes, More than 3 days.

    18 vote(s)
    10.9%
  3. Yes, More than a week.

    14 vote(s)
    8.5%
  4. No, Not for even for one "Instant".

    109 vote(s)
    66.1%
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  1. freyasman

    freyasman Member

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    Dogtown Tom, my decision to "take my business elswhere" was because they chose not complete the sale after 3 days. Legally, they could have; they chose not to. Ergo, I took my business elsewhere.
     
  2. dogtown tom

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    Got it.
    It's saddens me that any firearms dealer would be so paranoid as to not transfer a firearm when the law does not prohibit them. I've learned since getting my FFL is that gun dealers love to invent imaginary laws and nonexistent ATF regulations.
     
  3. danoam

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    I've never been denied, but I've been delayed all but once in the past couple years. I've never had to wait more than two days though.

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  4. ForumSurfer

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    I live in NC and I have a concealed handgun permit. We have some really backwards laws here. One law that I do love is that the CHP background check process is a federally approved alternative to NICS. I haven't had one done since getting my permit, so I'm not going to get denied. :)
     
  5. Dnaltrop

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    Nope, I give my SSN, was done in seconds without a hiccup this morning.

    Oregon sadly does not allow the CHL to count as a NICS check.
     
  6. zxcvbob

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    Mine always gets delayed for about 5 or 10 minutes unless I give my SSN. Not sure what the hiccup is. Never been denied, and never a long delay.
     
  7. JohnGault

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    Thanks to all that have voted.

    I am not a fan of the NICS and was "Delayed" for 30 days, tried again and one day later got the approval.

    For further reading.......

    http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/ATF/e0406/final.pdf


    "On the basis of our review, we believe that the percentage of persons
    subsequently found not to be prohibited is significantly higher than the
    10 percent cited by the ATF. As indicated in the report, 69 of the 197
    delayed denials we reviewed were closed because the person was
    determined not to be prohibited."

    Page 75...........

    I wonder what the <...future...> stats will be, these are from 2004 and published in 2008.

    Our poll may be an indication of today's ATF and NICS data?
     
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  8. Clark

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    I had to get a concealed carry permit to avoid delays.

    Then the kitchen FFL told me that if I order more than one handgun, I should only pick up one per week, or he has to report me.

    So I have a choice, and I chose to pick them up one per week.
     
  9. zxcvbob

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    I have a carry permit (also a C&R FFL) and the last gun I bought was a rifle -- when the FFL called in the 4473, the FBI still wanted my SSN before they would approve it.

    There must be an ex-con somewhere around here with the same last name.
     
  10. Brockak47

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    never
     
  11. Josh45

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    Never had a delay.
    Never had a deny.
    Even before carry permit. It does help a lot when doing the paperwork!
     
  12. ghitch75

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    i have a LTCH in Indiana and i get delay ever so often.....it will be 3 days tomorrow on a rifle:fire::fire::fire:...this is the longest time i have been delayed:fire::fire::fire:.....usually 24 hours has been the longest....i don't get there stupid system:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:
     
  13. pingpingping

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    I've been delayed twice...once for about 15 minutes, and once for about an hour. Most times however it is instant.
     
  14. wow6599

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    Once. A new FFL doing a transfer and I didn't want to give my SS#......delayed about 15 minutes IIRC.
     
  15. Franchise42

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    Before I got my CCP I was always delayed. Somebody close to my name or social did something bad. They would always call a few hours later to say all was well. Since I got the concealed permit, I don't even have to wait for them to call.
     
  16. HILLBILLY-06

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    A buddy of mine works at the gun counter at an Academy Sports, and he say's every time somebody named Smith or Jones tries to buy a gun, they always get delayed. He also said ,they always get pissed too, every one of them.
    Maybe the more common names or something are harder to run through, or they could just be picking on them, i don't know, thats just what i heard anyway.
     
  17. Pietro Beretta

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    I live in Oregon: I was delayed the last (first) time I purchased a firearm in this state.

    We have to go through OSP as a middle man for background checks.

    I was told by OSP (Oregon State Police) that it was because of a charge I had in California and they needed to check that out. (misdemeanor)

    After the third day with no response, I took possession of the firearm. Luckily the LGS knew the law and was more than willing to work within it.

    I have no clew when they got the proceed or how long it took.


    I am about to go in and buy my second handgun and figure that I will get delayed again; I just hope the new LGS I am dealing with is aware and willing to work with me within the law.
     
  18. The Lone Haranguer

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    Under the NICS system, or more recently, TBI, no delays or denials. ( I assume state waiting periods are outside the scope of this topic.) I have nothing disqualifying against me, and there is little chance of mistaking my family name for someone else's. :)
     
  19. e3mrk

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    I always get put on delay.
    Funny thing is I have a Concealed Carry License.
     
  20. Black Duck Charlie

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    I have been "delayed" on the five long gun purchases I have made through pawn shops/retail stores, including the one long gun that is incapable of firing anything but blanks. The only times i have not been "delayed" are when I have purchased through private sales, such as at gun shows, and when purchasing black powder firearms.

    The only way to guarantee that you will not be "delayed" is to get yourself one of those Unique Personal Identification Numbers from NICS.
     
  21. Black Duck Charlie

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    dogtown tom said
    It saddens me that so many people will do something just because the law does not forbid it.
     
  22. Swing

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    Nope, never delayed or denied.
     
  23. Ryanxia

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    Happy to say I've never had a delay/denial.
     
  24. Black Duck Charlie

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    Those who complain about having to wait for anything, including when purchasing a firearm, should sign up for a tour of Military Duty -- then they'll truly understand what having to wait means.

    Those who have been or are already in the Military should already know -- and beyond complaining about that which they have zero control over.

    It is called "hurry up and wait" for a reason.
     
  25. bikemutt

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    It would be nice if that were completely accurate. Even with a UPIN I still get brief delays. So far never more than a couple minutes when it's called in, usually 20-30 minutes if the FFL uses e-check. Most of the time though, it is pretty much instant.
     
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