Post-election buying panic mega thread of power

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The optimism of the gun community is heartwarming.

It was much the same in 1994.
 
I'm still shooting all the stuff I stockpiled during Y2K when the internet and all computers crashed and all electric went out and all bank accounts were frozen and the banks shuttered and...wait a minute!?!

tipoc
 
I'm still shooting all the stuff I stockpiled during Y2K when the internet and all computers crashed and all electric went out and all bank accounts were frozen and the banks shuttered and...wait a minute!?!

tipoc
If you really did stock up back then I suspect you've saved yourself some money over the years.
 
Rented a table at the Gun Show this weekend in Laurel, MS.

There is no obama feeding frenzy, but there are plenty of people at the show and I've made a few good sales, not as many as I'd like though. Hopefully today will be a better sales day.

Plenty of ammo for sale at decent prices, less than I was paying last year.
 
My local Wmart is completely out of 22 CCI, which is a pain because I was going to buy a birck or two, and is shorter than their randomly varying supply. But, I suspect their will be shortages but no hysteria and ammo prices and availability might go up and down, respectively. But nothing major or sustained.
 
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I'm still shooting all the stuff I stockpiled during Y2K when the internet and all computers crashed and all electric went out and all bank accounts were frozen and the banks shuttered and...wait a minute!?!

The reason Y2K did not happen on a large scale basis is that billions and billions were invested into the fix in terms of programming, project management, & hardware updates. I know, because I was one of them. Believe me when I say this - crap did hit the fan but the regular folks didn't know about it. It could have been A LOT worst.

Fast forward to present day, post election. . . If gun owners and the Regular Joe don't start writing & calling their representatives, monitoring the news, and also preparing for the worst (ammo shortages, firearm bans...etc...etc), the worst will happen.
 
The buying panic hasn't started. Well, maybe it has... I'm pretty OCD about these things and check online stores on a regular basis. All the normal stuff (9mm, 40, 308, 5.56, 7.62x39, mags...etc) are still in stock.

The interesting thing is that some stores are having "sales" on mags...etc..etc... The sale prices are the same or slightly higher than prices from before the election! LOL!
 
The reason Y2K did not happen on a large scale basis is that billions and billions were invested into the fix in terms of programming, project management, & hardware updates. I know, because I was one of them. Believe me when I say this - crap did hit the fan but the regular folks didn't know about it. It could have been A LOT worst.

You overstate the case a bit. No global collapse of civilization would have occurred even if computers had crashed. Neither were "billions and billions invested" to prevent it. Many millions perhaps. Predictions of the Y2K collapse were hype.

The economic crashes of the .com bust of the late 90s followed by the energy bust of a few years later followed by the current 5 year old recession have been more devastating to working people.

I've never felt the political need to stockpile arms or ammo. I've never been wrong in that.

tipoc
 
The house was strongly blue in 1993.
And "Red" politicians have voted for, and signed, restrictive gun legislation. Several voted in favor of the 1994 law.

My point was, that there is a significant amount of the gun community, that seem to think there's a prize awarded for being concerned the least over new legislation. They were quite vocal even back in 1994, and the same folks are crawling out of the woodwork now. Any suggestion that gun rights could be in danger seems to fuel their Tourette's. In my experience, those people are the least likely to belong to, or donate to pro gun organizations.

I prefer to be more cynical, and not blindly assume politicians will do the right thing, based on the letter that comes after their name.
 
The buying panic hasn't started. Well, maybe it has... I'm pretty OCD about these things and check online stores on a regular basis. All the normal stuff (9mm, 40, 308, 5.56, 7.62x39, mags...etc) are still in stock.

I'm not seeing quite as much in stock as a couple weeks ago, but you're correct, no giant shortages yet.

The difference this time is that manufacturers have been in overdrive, and distributors have been stocking up in anticipation. That, and a wary public have been stocking up for several years.
 
And "Red" politicians have voted for, and signed, restrictive gun legislation. Several voted in favor of the 1994 law.

My point was, that there is a significant amount of the gun community, that seem to think there's a prize awarded for being concerned the least over new legislation. They were quite vocal even back in 1994, and the same folks are crawling out of the woodwork now. Any suggestion that gun rights could be in danger seems to fuel their Tourette's. In my experience, those people are the least likely to belong to, or donate to pro gun organizations.

I prefer to be more cynical, and not blindly assume politicians will do the right thing, based on the letter that comes after their name.

Believe me, I'm as concerned about Red "moderates" as the next guy should be. GOP has lost my confidence forever, after running one of those moderates for presidential office.

I'm hoping that we're safe for another 2 years, at least. Post 2014? All bets are off. I'm already seeing people talking about "Hillary 2016" online.

I'm also hoping that "evil assault rifles" are mainstream enough now to make an attempt futile.

Sierra bullets, for example, is really pushing hard on this front, in the last week these images have been posted on their social media front:

"Carroll Pilant’s 7 year old granddaughter, Shelby Lutjen, killed this deer opening day of Missouri Youth Season using the 55 gr. hollow point boat tail (#1390) in a 16” barrel AR .223."
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And...

"Emily Baker shot this buck on the first day of Missouri Youth Season using a .223 with a 65 grain Sierra GameKing (#1395). Way to go Emily!"
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While I may not (personally) agree that we should justify our long arms require a sporting purpose, I also don't feel that it hurts our cause to show "evil black rifles" being used for such a purpose, because they are, in fact, well suited for such endeavors....
 
I've checked yesterday Wal-Mart and see no lines at ammo counters, everything looks normal.
So far no panic.
 
tipoc
You overstate the case a bit. No global collapse of civilization would have occurred even if computers had crashed. Neither were "billions and billions invested" to prevent it. Many millions perhaps. Predictions of the Y2K collapse were hype.

The economic crashes of the .com bust of the late 90s followed by the energy bust of a few years later followed by the current 5 year old recession have been more devastating to working people.

I've never felt the political need to stockpile arms or ammo. I've never been wrong in that.

You need to do your research on Y2K. The US alone, between government and private sector spent over 100 billion on solving the Y2K issue. The Fortune 100 company I'd worked for spent about 500 million. I can assure you that there were still glitches at those companies. Heck, even the more recent change in Daylight Savings Time caused issues with various operating systems. Hey, what do I know - I just run IT Infrastructure for a billion dollar organization. ;)

As far as stockpiling arms & ammo, I certainly wasn't suggesting that anyone do that. I merely stated my observations on what various online shooting sports shopping sites have been doing in the past week. Having sales, sales, sales - while keeping prices the same or even raising them.

Bottom line, be vigilant on the possible happenings with the current administration. They got nothing to lose when it comes to issuing an EO or two or three.
 
Wally world was sold out of .22lr everything except the shot shells... which I found to be very odd, though I'm guessing it was just a couple guys who bought in bulk that cleaned it out shortly before I got there... not a real true shortage.

There was plenty of different 9mm and .45 to choose from(I didn't pay attention to any other calibers), though not every brand was fully in stock... only had Winchester 100rd boxes, not the 50rd boxes in 9mm, no Federal .45 ammo, etc etc.
 
You need to do your research on Y2K. The US alone, between government and private sector spent over 100 billion on solving the Y2K issue. The Fortune 100 company I'd worked for spent about 500 million. I can assure you that there were still glitches at those companies.

Quite a few of the "solutions" were simply designed to push back the problem, as well.

I know of one system in particular, which is used globally that was just patched; not truly fixed. The patches are only good until 2020. After that if a replacement isn't done, all bets are off. It's 2012 ... and there's no replacement in sight yet.

People seem to think that just because nothing significant "broke" that it was all hype and a non-issue. Having worked half of the 90's on patches for the event, I know for a fact it WAS an issue. It took a global effort by millions of folks ranging from hardware designers, firmware designers, OS teams, driver programmers, and software engineers in a variety of fields, to actually make it through in one piece.

Anyway, some stuff was just a stopgap, and the problem is, the clock on those stopgaps is still running. A new generation of folks is coming up at the helm, and many with new priorities. A lot of "losttech" is floating around out there. Abandoned by the new generation that (incorrectly) assumed that obsolete systems would be replaced.

Then again, they didn't know what an impact or shift our economy would face in 2001. Or how so many US programming companies would get emptied in favor of off-shore development, were quality control and communications issues left a massive deficit in capability and knowledge base.

It all hangs by a thread. It really, truly does. :)
 
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