We are going to have to give up something

I am pretty sure the NRA is meeting with lawmakers now, and over the past few days. In my opinion, the lawmakers said they would support the NRA and vice-versa until something like this happens, in which case the NRA would have to support some sort of legislation to control firearms. Let me be clear that this is strictly MY OPINION and nobody else's. Please don't argue my opinion. Feel free to state your own, but don't tell me I'm wrong unless you have proof. I have never seen the NRA go this quiet and dark for this long; It worries me as an NRA life-member.

Since I am under the firm belief that we are going to have to concede something, my question is what do you think it will be? I have them ranked in order of likelihood as follows.

1. more heavily regulated private sales? i.e. close the "gunshow loophole"
2. More obstacles to buying a gun. i.e. psych evaluations, required yearly training, etc.
3. renewed assault weapons ban
4. "high capacity magazine" ban
5. online gun sales (doubtful)

*A quick note about the first one - Personally, I always use an FFL to sell my guns privately because I want to xfer ownership and not have the police knocking on my door if buyer decides to commit a crime with that gun. To me, it's worth the transfer fee to do it cleanly. I realize you don't have to do this and it's your legal right not to. This is simply the way I choose to do things. This first item wouldn't affect me as much as the other ones would.

Items 2 and 3 may be flip-flopped in my mind as well.

Of all the things in my lifetime that have threatened our 2A rights, this one worries me the most. My friends in the gun industry have even said they have never seen anything like it and they too are worried.

Any thoughts on this? anything you can say to console me?

billwitten said:

I disagree we have to give up something. It is the liberal, anti-gun types that have to give something up.

Arm the teachers. It isn’t politically correct but isn’t it time we set politics aside and start thinking about realistic ways to ensure the safety of our children? Arm the teachers. Stop the politically correct insanity that allowed Columbine, Virginia Tech and Sandy Hook.


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I actually suggested this to some friends the other day and that laughed in my face. My suggestion was having 2, highly trained and certified, volunteer teachers (preferably ones who already have a CCW) carry (or have access to) firearms on school grounds. Their identities would remain anonymous and they would have to undergo yearly training/certification to keep the responsibility. Obv, cops would be better suited for this but most cities don't have the manpower to stick a cop in every single school in the city.

on the other hand, this would never happen and I could see why parents wouldn't go for it. It's just my humble suggestion upon many others that may or may not be viable.

wtr100 said:

100% tax credit for purchase of a gun safe

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holy....jeez! that's a brilliant idea and rather creative as well. Let's take it one step further and say you get a tax credit for undergoing certain safety and marksman training.

rbernie said:

No, we do not HAVE to give up anything. We do HAVE to ensure that the dialog is focused on root cause analysis and on identifying actions that tie off against root causes.

Entering into battle because battle is expected, without knowing the terrain or knowing the desired end goal, is rarely a good idea.

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I respectfully disagree with you. There will be some sort of restrictive legislation that comes from this. We certainly will not be GIVEN any more freedom.

Hokkmike said:

The most despairing thing about it is that we will ultimately have no say in the matter....

We can of course, at the next election cycle, get off our butts and remember who our friends were.

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Executive Order will prevent us from having a voice. I could see Obama doing it. He's already done it.

Malamute said:

Oh,..OK.

I guess we'll give up something and have an instant background check before we can buy a gun.

Oh, wait, we already gave that up.

Alright, lets give up being able to buy a gun by mail, and have to fill out federal paperwork. (Gun Control Act of 1968)

Oh, we already gave that up also.

Well, we can submit to an "assualt weapon ban", and see how that goes.

Um, hey, we did that too, and it didnt change anything, but at least it had a sunset date.


We're always asked to "give a little", but many that want us to give keep admitting that they know it wont really change that much, "but we have to start somewhere". Well, if what they are asking for is the start, where do they plan to end? I have an idea. Maybe if all the guns are kept in a central location, and you can go check them out to go to the range or go hunting, since its too dangerous to have them at home or "on the streets" whatever that means. (none of my guns have ever been "on the streets", that I'm aware of) Guess what they'd be asking us to give up when keeping guns in a central location didnt work, even if the guns used in a crime weren't kept at that safe location?

The old story about throwing one passenger off the sleigh to the wolves to appease them not working, as once you give in, they only want more, is really true. We've already given in to many "common sense" restrictions, yet they continue to want more when what they asked for didn't have the result they desired.

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I don't know how it is in your state, but in TX you can buy a gun privately without passing a background check.