Ruger g.s. Scout rifle.

Congrats! Those are awesome. They do make it in .223. I actually held one, as well as the .308. Both wonderful rifles.

Geno

I beg to differ. I suspect that Jeff Cooper would be appalled. His specs for a Scout Rifle included "light and handy". The Ruger effort is heavy for a 308 carbine and has a magazine sticking out - way out - of the stock for styling reasons. Not very handy. Ruger could have easily made it with a lighter stock and internal magazine but decided not to for marketing reasons.

It's not a bad rifle, it's just not a good Scout rifle.

Geno said:

Congrats! Those are awesome. They do make it in .223. I actually held one, as well as the .308. Both wonderful rifles.

Geno

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Where oh where did you hold one in .223? Any links with news about such a beast?

krupparms said:

Just picked up a new ruger G.S.Scout rifle. It is fantastic! Ruger did a great job once again. Have had no luck at finding extra magazines, but I will keep looking.

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I only see over priced polymer Ruger 5 and 10 round mags at places like Gunbroker. I have three 10 rounders on back order with rugershop.com using my 20% new gun purchase discount. Maybe, I will get them this summer?

Anyway, congrats on your new Ruger GSR. I do like mine for exactly what it is, whether it meets Cooper's scout rifle requirements or not.

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Have had no luck at finding extra magazines, but I will keep looking

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http://shopruger.com/Bolt-Action-Magazines/products/559/

I am curious about where you saw one in 223 as well. Did it use AR magazines by any chance ??? I have kept an eye out for one in other calibers, but haven't seen any evidence of them yet.

nipprdog said:

http://shopruger.com/Bolt-Action-Magazines/products/559/

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Dang, I thought the backorder drought was over! That's where my order for 10 round poly mags are currently in purgatory.

Yet, other mags are coming into stock so that's a good sign!

The Ruger website does not have any information on a .223 version.

Congratulations on your new rifle - I want one in the left-handed model, stainless barrel.

Enjoy!

If it's Ruger it is more than likely a proprietary magazine for that specific rifle.
I doubt if the 5.56 version even is set up to work with the Mini 14 magazines.
Think of the money Ruger makes in proprietary magazines and then making new and unique magazines for new designs on older rifles and pistols.
Old Bill was sly like a fox, I have a feeling the problem he had with Hi-Cap magazines was likely that he wasn't making enough money off the ones that were sold for his rifles.
Those Scout Rifles could have been designed to take AR or M1A magazines, but Millions of dollars would have been lost to Ruger had the done it that way.

Target Sports, Royal Oak, MI Ask for Ray. The .223 model had a 1-9 twist barrel.

Geno

Averageman said:

If it's Ruger it is more than likely a proprietary magazine for that specific rifle.
I doubt if the 5.56 version even is set up to work with the Mini 14 magazines.
Think of the money Ruger makes in proprietary magazines and then making new and unique magazines for new designs on older rifles and pistols.
Old Bill was sly like a fox, I have a feeling the problem he had with Hi-Cap magazines was likely that he wasn't making enough money off the ones that were sold for his rifles.
Those Scout Rifles could have been designed to take AR or M1A magazines, but Millions of dollars would have been lost to Ruger had the done it that way.

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In the prototype phase of the 308 scout they tried the m1a mags but couldn't get reliable feeding.

natman said:

I beg to differ. I suspect that Jeff Cooper would be appalled. His specs for a Scout Rifle included "light and handy". The Ruger effort is heavy for a 308 carbine and has a magazine sticking out - way out - of the stock for styling reasons. Not very handy. Ruger could have easily made it with a lighter stock and internal magazine but decided not to for marketing reasons.

It's not a bad rifle, it's just not a good Scout rifle.

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I'm guessing that's in part due to the price point. Over the product life cycle I suspect they will address some of the definicies. Of course there is always the Styer Scout.

Krupp,

Check out Alpha Ind Mfg and their Alpha Ruger GSR mag.

www.alphaindmfg.com

I have a couple and they are well made, and shorter than the Ruger 10 rd factory metal box mag. This is accomplished by double stacking the lower rounds with a single feed. Forget 308 stripper clips as either Ruger or Alpha box is loaded one round at a time. You just need more mags. The only commentable item is that the Alpha teflon finish is slick when you are removing the mag.

There are several YouTube vids out there on the GSR and one specifically on the Alpha.

Also, unless you like the tuning fork ping of the birdcage suppressor, you might consider the Smith Enterprise Vortex suppressor. Again, lots of visuals on their web site.

www.smithenterprise.com

Enjoy your GSR. Sam

Dang, I thought the backorder drought was over! That's where my order for 10 round poly mags are currently in purgatory.

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When did you place your order? I placed an order very early in January, when the 10 rounders were still listed as backordered. No further info until they showed up about a month later! I bought two of the 10 rounders and two of the 5 rounders, from shopruger. I also have two of the Alpha Industry mags, which I ordered when I didn't have a clue as to when I would see the Ruger mags. So, now I've got 7 mags -- the original 10 round mag, the four new poly mags, and the two Alpha mags.

I recently sent an e-letter to Ruger customer relationships congratulating them on their success and asking them if they plan to pursue a .223 GSR. They actually did follow up two days later saying that at this time they have no current plans but will evaluate the market over the next few months.
So no, I don't think they make one. And I was hoping to get a left-hander too...
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When did you place your order? I placed an order very early in January, when the 10 rounders were still listed as backordered. No further info until they showed up about a month later! I bought two of the 10 rounders and two of the 5 rounders, from shopruger. I also have two of the Alpha Industry mags, which I ordered when I didn't have a clue as to when I would see the Ruger mags. So, now I've got 7 mags -- the original 10 round mag, the four new poly mags, and the two Alpha mags.

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I ordered them February 4th. Maybe mine will show up in a few weeks?

If not, I do like the steel mags shown in the link provided by sammass in post #15. I wish I'd know of them sooner.
http://www.alphaindmfg.com./store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=57

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I recently sent an e-letter to Ruger customer relationships congratulating them on their success and asking them if they plan to pursue a .223 GSR. They actually did follow up two days later saying that at this time they have no current plans but will evaluate the market over the next few months.
So no, I don't think they make one. And I was hoping to get a left-hander too...
B

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I did notice that the Ruger Hawkeye 77 Tactical rifle looks only a couple steps removed from the GSR. Mostly due to that flash hider hanging on the muzzle. It does come in .223 and .308.

http://www.ruger.com/products/m77HawkeyeTactical/models.html

My left-hand GSR is flawless. The action is smooth, the trigger is light and crisp, and function and accuracy are excellent.

My polymer mags came from Midway, but that was almost a year ago. They work beautifully, and I find the 3-round perfect for carry, backed-up by larger ones in pockets.

It's a mistake, in my estimation, to cling too tightly to Colonel Jeff's original "formula". Look at the RIFLE! It meets the basic idea admirably, and nit-picking is pointless.

For myself, I dislike the forward-mounted scope concept; as a result, my GSR wears a receiver-mounted sight....just the way I like it.

To use a lighter stock is to use a WEAKER stock....the laminated one on the GSR is one of the FEW commercial items of which I'm aware that has a reasonable chance of surviving use for a full-force butt-stroke to an enemy's head.... or even an owner's fall on the rifle on rough ground, or a horse rolling on it. This is a hard-service concept, and such things should be considered.

As can be seen, I like the rifle and Ruger's execution of the basic concept.

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It's a mistake, in my estimation, to cling too tightly to Colonel Jeff's original "formula".

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Not when the subject is how Jeff Cooper would feel about it.

As I said, it's not a bad rifle. I agree that it's sturdy and should stand up to a lot of abuse. If Ruger had called it the "Truck Buddy" or the "Service Max" or something similar I'd have no complaint. But they called it the "Gunsite Scout" which invites comparison to Cooper's Scout Rifle formula. Which it doesn't meet particularly well.

I was going to go with the Ruger GSR as I love my Rugers. That was until I saw the new Mossberg MVP in .308 that takes AR10/SR25 mags. So Mossy will be getting my money, that's what you get for screwing us with proprietary mags Ruger. Mossy also saw that synthetic stocks were a good idea too with their Flex system. Although some of the Flex system is stupid you can get a traditional style stock configuration in synthetic. Smart again. It looks like the competition is heating up. I almost forgot, the Mossy is $300 cheaper too!

The MVP is a great little rifle! I have the 5.56, and it is very accurate. I can't imagine that their .308 model would be any less impressive.

Geno

In the prototype phase of the 308 scout they tried the m1a mags but couldn't get reliable feeding.
I would imagine the engineer's were hard at until the cash register rang.
I dont begrudge them making a buck and I have heard the same thing before, I just don't see why it couldn't have been done.
I would imagine the same thing was said about the Mini and the Ranch Rifles too!