Fighting shotgun recommendations

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Sheepdog1968 said:
Cool video Captain Chaos.
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Thanks, 'Dog.

We shoot in trap league a could of times per league from a chair just to mix things up.
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Ah, but is it a *wobbly* chair? (The chair in the video is mounted on springs.)

The gist of the book is that more choices makes us less happy.
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I've been thinking of buying a new (digital) camera and one thing that's made me "prevaricate around the bush" is the sheer *range* of cameras that each manufacturer seems to think that we need.

Talking of making a purchasing decision, when I bought the '1887, I had a simple choice to make: buy the Chinese copy or the Italian copy at twice the price. I chose the latter and have not regretted the choice that I made:

http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/233403-review-of-the-chiappa-1887-lever-action-shotgun/

Regards,

Mark.
 
For a fighting shotgun, I've got a Remington 870P with 20" rifle sight barrel and equipped with an extended magazine tube, Hogue rubberized forearm, Mesa Tactical Urbino stock and cheek riser, and Mesa Tactical side saddle. It works great. The only thing that I would change would be to add ghost ring sights, put a Surefire forearm on it, and change the barrel to an 18.5". However, the Surefire is so expensive that it costs nearly as much as the shotgun itself.

With that being said, an 870 (any variation) is a proven design. It is the most popular shotgun in the world. If you decide to opt for an autoloader, I don't think you can match the Benelli M1014/M4 for a fighting shotgun. You just need to be prepared to empty your wallet.
 
My HD gun is a Maverick 88 with an 18.5" barrel. As soon as funds come about I'm looking at getting a decent reflex red dot for it, but for now the single bead is just fine.

My other shotguns include a Remington 48 Sportsman with a +3 mag extension, bringing capacity to 7+1. (The factory mag did not have the dimples forcing the 2+1 standard, just a wood plug)

In a matter of a few minutes I can have this gun converted back to hunting requirements.

Being a long recoil action, like the Browning A5 and Remington model 11, it's very reliable. Recoil is less than my pumps, that's for sure.

I've also got a single shot 20 gauge, my wife's, actually. This was the yard gun when we lived in the country and dealt with gophers and such. Also a nice squirrel gun.

I've got access and will eventually inherit an 870 Wingmaster 12 gauge and an 1100 20 gauge.

Out of all of them, I keep the Mav 88 for HD because it's the one I'm most familiar with. It's my fighting shotgun, although I do have a 28" vent rib barrel with a mod choke installed for busting clays. My 48 does a fine job at that task as well.

I don't consider myself a shotgun guy, but I have more shotguns than I have anything else. They are generally cheaper than rifles and pistols, ammo is widely available and not limited to one style. The versatility of shotguns is what brings me back for more. I'm always on the hunt for a good deal on scatterguns.

If I had to limit myself down to just one shotgun for all my various purposes, it'd be my Mav 88. Even with the 870 and 1100 in the mix, the Mav 88 would still top my list. Again, it goes back to familiarity and accessories invested. I've got barrels, chokes, scope mounts, etc.
 
DammitBoy said:
The fighting shotgun issued to special forces

Benelli M1 thru M4 Super 90
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One of our (PSG) club members has recently swapped his Remington 1187 and 870 for a Benelli Supa Nova and Beretta 1301.

Those '1301s are getting very popular this side of the Pond.

USAF_Vet said:
for HD because it's the one I'm most familiar with.
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Indeed.

All of my shotguns are either American or clones thereof, so I spend a considerable amount of time surfin' the Yank forums. I offten read things along the lines of "I've bought the cheapest pump-action shotgun that I can find and I've fired a few rounds at the range. Now I'm equipped for HD*."

From personal experience of PSG (*not* HD), I can say that the slightest bit of pressure can cause one to fumble things - if you're familiar with the gun's operation, that's gotta be a Good Thing. (So, to newbie would-be Home Defenders, I'd say "go do some Three Gun competitions".)

Regards,

Mark.

HD: If you visit any UK shooting forums, don't get confused by the fact that, in the UK, "HD" stands for "Humane Despatch", and not "Home Defence". :)
 
The M1 is inertia and the M4 is gas operated ( the only Benelli that is) and neither one is the Super 90.
A pump is very easily mastered in my opinion, and while for more serious clay shooting I like a semi auto, I can shoot ducks just as well with a Wingmaster. With either a Mossberg or a Remington pump - whichever one YOU prefer, you will have a platform that with the right stock and barrel can do anything, and do it extremely well. They have been in service with every military and police unit type you can think of, and used for absolutely everything else one can use a shotgun for. If you want add ons, there are more for those two than everything else combined by a wide margin.
It used to be that landing a military contract was good advertising, but some of that luster is gone. The round of bidding that the Mossberg 590 won, no one else elected to submit a bid ( I am NOT saying there is anything at all wrong with the Mossberg). The others just decided the cost - which is not trivial, and use of company resources wasn't worth the outcome for where their company was at that time.
 
Gun Master said:
Unless you are : young, strong, intelligent, well versed in shooting shotguns, and shoot them often - DO NOT SHOOT A 12 GAUGE WITH A PISTOL GRIP!!!!
I know it looks "COOL" on the screen, but it can really hurt otherwise!!!
About 10 years ago (my how time flies), I shot my Mossberg 500A with a pistol grip. Man, I thought my thumb and wrist was broken (it wasn't, but it felt like it). I went home and put the full stock on, and there it stays (and I saved the pistol grip for one who meets the above qualifications).
You can do the same thing with the full stock, held between your waist and hip, and have more control of the weapon. The only time a pistol grip could come in handy is in close confines, such as a car. Otherwise, your wrist and/or thumb may be (or feel like it is) broken. What good will it do you then?
That said, I'm going to go, in my wheelchair, to the nurses' station . I heard they have ice cream!!!
Just kidding guys, but sometimes I feel like that.:)
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I believe most of the posters (myself among them) are referring to stocks that have a pistol grip in addtion to the regular buttstock, as the SpeedFeed III I mentioned does. I haven't seen much reference to the Pistol Grip only.
BTW I am old, strong, intellegent, and well versed in shooting shotguns, and I have no problem shooting PGOs (PIstol Grip Only) There is a method to doing it safely and somewhat accurately (as shotgun shooting goes); A good design is important; The SpeedFeed Witness protection Pistol Grip is the best of the bunch.

oneounceload; let's just agree to disagree.
 
entropy said:
I believe most of the posters (myself among them) are referring to stocks that have a pistol grip in addtion to the regular buttstock, as the SpeedFeed III I mentioned does. I haven't seen much reference to the Pistol Grip only.
BTW I am old, strong, intellegent, and well versed in shooting shotguns, and I have no problem shooting PGOs (PIstol Grip Only) There is a method to doing it safely and somewhat accurately (as shotgun shooting goes); A good design is important; The SpeedFeed Witness protection Pistol Grip is the best of the bunch.

oneounceload; let's just agree to disagree.
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If you can comfortably pistol grip shoot a shotgun, consider yourself fortunate.
I wish I could. I'm almost 76 years old, and have extensive arthritis and nerve damage,etc. I can still pull the trigger on several handguns, rifles, and shotguns.
Shooting is still enjoyable to me, and, thankfully, I can defend myself and my family.
God bless ! ><> :)
 
My rules are the following.
1. Find a shotgun that fits YOU.
2. Pick a gauge you can handle.
3. Pattern your shotgun with various brands of buck shot.
4. Keep the tactical stuff to a minimum.
5. Shoot it enough to keep sharp.
 
#1. Most shotgun sights are pretty simple - oftentimes just a bead. You can adapt to just about anything that's on the market today or easily swap to something you like.
#2. Personally, I haven't ever seen a bad shotgun sight. A simple bead is all you need.
#3. I recommend a Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870. All you need is the basic shotgun and then buy an 18" barrel. Take 2 minutes to attach the 18" barrel and you've got the best HD rig known to man.
#4. The 870 is an excellent choice, so is a Mossberg 500. I've never shot the Benelli, so can't advise you there.
 
Andy John said:
#1. Most shotgun sights are pretty simple - oftentimes just a bead. You can adapt to just about anything that's on the market today or easily swap to something you like.
#2. Personally, I haven't ever seen a bad shotgun sight. A simple bead is all you need.
#3. I recommend a Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870. All you need is the basic shotgun and then buy an 18" barrel. Take 2 minutes to attach the 18" barrel and you've got the best HD rig known to man.
#4. The 870 is an excellent choice, so is a Mossberg 500. I've never shot the Benelli, so can't advise you there.
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That's it in a nutshell. Did you ever wonder why they call it a "shot"gun?
And not a "slug"gun?
You can shoot either shot or slug, but I'm basically a shot guy.
 
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