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On Sunday, I was asked to leave a local indoor handgun range and was wondering if any of you have similar experiences or if there is any recourse.

My eyesight suffers from floaters, which will build up and cause joint pain if not "brushed" away with a physical motion as if swatting a fly which is similar basically.. There were 3 instances of this during 27 minutes of range time. Each time, I cleared the weapon, placed it on the bench, and proceeded to make a discrete arm motion to keep the floaters from getting too bad.. This however was not something the range master would tolerate, even though it had nothing to do with firearms handling, and the gun was secured. Due to a medical issue was if any recourse available, kicked out of the business. Or if anyone has had similar experiences?
 
Floaters don't cause joint pain, and waving your arms does nothing to or about them.

Don't get me wrong...you may have floaters AND something causing joint pain...they may even be connected for all I know...but the floaters themselves aren't causing the pain and aren't affected by your arm waving.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/eye-floaters/basics/definition/con-20033061

I think this is one of those areas where one of the downsides to handling a deadly weapon in a group setting (like a public shooting range) is that people get very judgmental about inexplicable deviant behavior. Your choices are to try to explain the behavior or suppress it for the duration of your stay. Since the behavior is somewhat inexplicable I'd go for suppression.
 
So, wait... you put your gun down...? And then brushed your eye? What the heck does that have to do with joint pain? I've had floaters all my life, and they are not related to joint pain. BTW this sentence -
Due to a medical issue was if any recourse available, kicked out of the business. Does not make sense...
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doesn't make any sense a'tall.

So, back to the point - you moved your arm, without a gun in your hand, and you were kicked out for that? What was their reason...?
 
My eyesight suffers from floaters, which will build up and cause joint pain if not "brushed" away with a physical motion as if swatting a fly which is similar basically...
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Floaters do not cause joint pain.

Floaters do not build up or increase in number over a period of minutes; their number is constant over any reasonable timeframe although they may increase due to illness or other issues. The number doesn't fluctuate over a daily period and certainly not in the space of a shooting session.

They can not be "brushed" away with a physical motion of the hand because they are actually inside the eyeball.
...proceeded to make a discrete arm motion to keep the floaters from getting too bad.. This however was not something the range master would tolerate...
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The range master is there to keep things safe. A person periodically making motions to brush away non-existent objects "1 to 2 feet in front of" their eyes at a gun range is going to raise alarms and cause safety concerns and shouldn't be surprised if they are asked to leave.
well i think thats was just rude, he could have at least, referred you to a specialist and asked you to work hard to be better.
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Rangemasters are not there to provide medical treatment or to provide referrals to medical specialists. They are not there to be polite. They are there to keep things safe and that task includes ejecting people who are not acting rationally.
 
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On Sunday, I was asked to leave a local indoor handgun range and was wondering if any of you have similar experiences or if there is any recourse.

My eyesight suffers from floaters, which will build up and cause joint pain if not "brushed" away with a physical motion as if swatting a fly which is similar basically.. There were 3 instances of this during 27 minutes of range time. Each time, I cleared the weapon, placed it on the bench, and proceeded to make a discrete arm motion to keep the floaters from getting too bad.. This however was not something the range master would tolerate, even though it had nothing to do with firearms handling, and the gun was secured. Due to a medical issue was if any recourse available, kicked out of the business. Or if anyone has had similar experiences?
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Some people find that looking sharply up and then sharply down before resuming whatever the previous activity was, will aid in making the floaters unnoticeable for awhile. If this technique works for you it would have the advantage of not drawing attention.
 
I've had floaters for years and learned to live with them. they do not cause joint pain! You need to see an ophthalmologist for a complete eye exam and he/she will be able to explain these to you. I'm sure when the range officer saw you waving in mid air maybe he thought you were hallucinating and erred on the side of caution?

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I've had floaters for years too. If you learn to not focus on them, your brain/eyes will for the most part not see them. If you focus on them, they'll give you a bad time. As far as the gun range, you'll need to deal with them or not shoot there. Talking to my eye doctor about floaters, he said the brain will not see things after a while; which is the reason some people don't see things like cars and get into accidents.
 
Sonicmaster,

It would certainly look like a Turrets type tick, which was then followed with an explanation that involves the illogical combination of vitreous floaters, joint pain and getting rid of the floater by waving in the air several feet from the eye. I would have ejected you as well.

Whether you see an eye doctor or not, something is going on psychiatrically. You may have had a stroke or something else that makes the combination of things you wrote seem reasonable, but they are not. Please call your physician tomorrow and describe exactly the combination of actions, joint pain and eye floaters you wrote about here. They will likely direct you to an emergency room for a series of cognitive tests and some scans.

I'm serious - something is very wrong if your description seemed reasonable.
 
sonicmaster577

Like others have already stated, I too have had eye floaters for years. It's pretty much like I don't even notice them anymore. I am at a loss to figure out what waving your arms is doing to alleviate the problem or how any of this is connected to joint pain. I would strongly urge you to see your health care provider about these issues.

As for you being asked to leave the gun range, I can see how the range master might have been concerned that you were possibly unable to control your physical motions (as in what if you started to move your arms around uncontrollably while you were shooting), or if you were having some sort of abnormal physiological episode and were a possible risk to yourself and to the other people at the range.
 
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