CZ plans to open US factory this year

chicharrones said:

CZ USA is currently in Kansas. I wonder if they would set up manufacturing there?

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Why wouldn't they? That's the logical extension. In any event, there goes their mystique.

HexHead said:

In any event, there goes their mystique.

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I try not to be influenced by that type of silly thing, but despite my best efforts in this case I have to say, I agree. Make 'em in the Czech Republic and keep the cult following.

Then again, they've already started some changes with some of the new Czech-produced lines that I don't like as much as the old guns. 452 being replaced by the 455. 550 being essentially replaced by the 557. Rumor that the 527 might see a replacement (but that might just be a rumor). IMO, the 455 lacks a little bit of something that the 452 had, and the 557 isn't very similar to the old-school Mauser 550 action that I admire so much. All these changes may represent progress and set the company up to be more competitive, but some of the old-school that made me connect with the guns so strongly (I have 20 of them) is simply missing from the new models and I don't find myself wanting to own a bunch of the new ones like I do the old.

CZ is still my favorite small arms company by a wide, wide margin, so I definitely wish them the best of luck and I hope my fears of change are unfounded.

Confirmed, CZ-USA is moving towards domestic production, and they are absolute on keeping quality high.

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I’m sure they are.

But Daimler and other companies with start-ups in the US were just as ‘absolute.’

I’m among the biggest of CZ fans – I own five their rifles and two of their handguns and couldn’t be happier – and as such I believe concern is warranted that quality could suffer as a result of manufacturing in the US.

Surely, they won't make the entire line here. I may need one more CZ anyway.

Does this mean we will all now have to learn how to say Česká Zbrojovka properly?

16turbo, I hope the 527 replacement is just a rumor. I've got to have one in 204 Ruger, but it's not in the budget right now. I've got two others and it's a great little rifle.

Like several others I also miss the 550 and regret not getting one in .243 when they were still available. The 550 FS just aren't the same for me.

I only own one 'modern' CZ and that is a 527 in 7.62 X 39 and she is a beauty and shoots as well as I ever can.

So,I look forward to a good product,at possibly a 'better' price ?.

rayatphonix said:

16turbo, I hope the 527 replacement is just a rumor. I've got to have one in 204 Ruger, but it's not in the budget right now. I've got two others and it's a great little rifle.

Like several others I also miss the 550 and regret not getting one in .243 when they were still available. The 550 FS just aren't the same for me.

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Fortunately there are enough of the 452s, 527s, and 550s out there that you can find pretty much whatever you want in like new condition if you keep an eye on GB and other sites.

This year, for example, I've bought a pristine 2010 model factory custom 527 Classic and a pristine 2002 model 550 Varmint, both at about $100 lower than NIB prices after they had been through one auction cycle with no bids (I didnt see them on the first auction).

jdc1244 said:

When Daimler started building M-Class SUVs in Alabama the result was a disaster.

Perhaps there’s a difference between building a motor vehicle and a firearm, particularly when the latter is manufactured via automation with little human involvement.

But some might want to consider buying Czech-made CZs sooner.

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If I were in the market for a CZ I wouldn't wait. The quality will go down for anything CZ builds in this country. It happens to just about every mfg that opens up a plant here. I was a huge Toyota fan until I bought one built in the US. I wouldn't buy another one on a bet.

CoalTrain49 said:

The quality will go down for anything CZ builds in this country. It happens to just about every mfg that opens up a plant here. I was a huge Toyota fan until I bought one built in the US. I wouldn't buy another one on a bet.

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I would not consider that a justifiable concern or a valid comparison. The longest lasting and best-running car I ever had (over eighteen years and nearly 300,000 miles) was a Honda Civic. On its door post was a label nearly impossible to find on any car anywhere: "Made in USA".

It would be running to this day if a whitetail buck didn't decide to run in front of it on a highway

If the USA-made guns end up as good as the Czech ones, I'll buy a couple...shoot, you may actually be able to *find* USA-made ones.

Zombie thread: BUT....

CZ dropped a huge bomb today with the announcement of the new P-10 models, which will be made here in the US in their new factory.

Aren't hedge fund managers often influential in persuading companies to squeeze the maximum Short Term profit from their operations?

Whether or not this is common in the US, let's hope that increased production here will remain as top notch as it is in the Czech Republic.

Ignition Override said:

Aren't hedge fund managers often influential in persuading companies to squeeze the maximum Short Term profit from their operations

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The worst thing ever invented that negativity impacts a company’s product quality, pay rate, benefits, and service is the personal computer.

As long as people can log onto their computer every day to check their 401 or stock portfolio, it’s gonna be all about profit NOW.

Few years ago there was a story about a CEO that had been a really good manager, good profits for over 20 quarterly earnings statements in a row. He had one negative quarter and got fired.

I worked for Deere & Co for 13 years. Employees were fiercely loyal. Company was great. We get a new CEO. First thing they do is start cutting benefits and payroll, R & D. Employee morale, product quality, and customer loyalty all spiral downward.

I had ZKK 602 .375, CZ 550 9, 3x62 and CZ 75. I have Colt Glock and Winchestet now. My Winchester from mid 50s is a better rifle. I have no interest in CZ but would not mind coming across ZB on VZ-24 action in useful caliber like .30-06.
I would dump the Winchester because it's in .300 meaning locally ammo is made of unobtainium and cheapest on line offer is almost $50 per 20. That sucks.

Yawn, another plastic striker fired gun. I'm glad CZ has confidence in the US gun industry to invest in a factory though. All I read on the gun boards is doom and gloom.

John_R said:

Yawn, another plastic striker fired gun. I'm glad CZ has confidence in the US gun industry to invest in a factory though. All I read on the gun boards is doom and gloom.

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My thoughts exactly, I own several CZ's but have sold a couple that I hadn't been using lately. I love them all, but the last thing I need/want is a striker fired CZ, well any striker fired pistol actually.

John_R said:

Yawn, another plastic striker fired gun. I'm glad CZ has confidence in the US gun industry to invest in a factory though. All I read on the gun boards is doom and gloom.

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It's another alternatine to Glock. I mean, in case someone is tired of Glock generation repackaging 101 efforts.

If they do it right, and automate most processes with new precision CNC machinery, they should be able to turn out a better product at lower cost.

P-10 series to begin with, no telling what else they may build here, like some of the pistol models that were impossible to import due to GCA 68 point rules. I never liked striker fired pistols, then I picked up a P-10C. Now I have two of them, outstanding sidearms. We'll see what comes out of Kansas City next.

cheygriz said:

If they do it right, and automate most processes with new precision CNC machinery, they should be able to turn out a better product at lower cost.

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They can compete with "meat rifles" from Savage, Mossberg, Ruger, TC Center,......