I had a dream this one was mine!

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It’s an oddly proportioned gun which gives it a very unique look. It’s one of a very few guns where the wood grips are more surface area than the entire rest of the gun. The scary thing there for me would be getting an ugly piece of wood. The guns shape is unique too so it’s definitely a standout design.
 
I owned one for a time and I can say it is my absolute favorite 9mm. I had the PSP model. One of the surplus ones I am sure. Don’t regret getting rid of it but man it was a sweet shooter. I placed first in my club for steel challenge and bowling pin with it and could not beat myself with a Hi Power or 1911. I could’ve gotten close with my Glock 19 though. The Glock is better in a few ways the first of which is that it is still produced.
 
:D I’m a mag whore sue me.

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On a design standpoint they interest me, and certainly they have an excellent reputation.

But, man, they are just about the ugliest guns around in my eyes.
 
When we were thinking of transitioning to semi-autos in the late 80's, our range officers were doing trials of several guns, including a P-7. I don't think it was really in contention, more like they got a chance to shoot one on someone else's dime. We wound up with plain Jane vanilla Glocks.

They also tested some form of CZ and Sig. I wonder if they got to buy those testing guns, never heard what happened to them.

I did hear the P-7 got very warm after a few mags.
 
I own one for the most part it just sits in the safe. It gets shot once or twice a year. It is super accurate and reliable but after shooting a mag or two the grip area get really hot due to the gas design. It will burn you. IIRC M8s have a heat shield which helps some. They are neat guns but not one of my favorite shooters.
 
I owned one in the late 90s or early 2000s and never warmed up to it. Because of its awkward shape, it doesn't carry very well in holsters. The heat issue was never a problem for me. It was accurate and reliable. I got rid of it because of the difficulty carrying it, and its odd manual of arms. Its a cool gun, just don't want another one after having owned one for a while.
 
My first P7 was an original (PSP) which I bought through my FFL for the MSRP of $400. I really liked that you get a full 4" barrel in such a compact package...plus one button takedown and cocking lever slide release. The strong point is reliability...it even works with a broken extractor (50k+ rds). The weak point is the striker retention collar...so I've heard

It replaced my Colt Combat Commander as my duty gun. The tough thing was finding leather for it. The Tex Shoemaker duty rig I used left a lot to be desired. You had to bring another gun along which practicing to give it a chance to cool down ever 3 mags...it was a combat pistol, not a plinker. The cool guys had two and switched off between them.

Imagine my surprise when H&K made a big push into the LE market and the M8 was available for $359, the M13 for $378.

My other P7 is a NJSP surplus M8 I picked up for $659. The magazine releases are very nice, but the bigger trigger guard and sights make it a bit less graceful.

Magazines for either will run around $70 but they are likely the strongest magazines I've ever handled...certainly the strongest single stack magazines...they still function after being run over by a car. I stocked up on them a while back and have 10+ for each P7
 
Speedo66 said:
I did hear the P-7 got very warm after a few mags.
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WVsig said:
but after shooting a mag or two the grip area get really hot due to the gas design.
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I owned one about 10 years ago. I loved it! It was (is) one of the nicest P7s I ever saw. However, after 2 mags at the range, you could not hold it to fire. Where your trigger finger went, it had to be close to 200 degrees. Literally. You would get scalded if you tried a 3rd mag in a row. I even put shooting gloves on with no luck. You had to let it cool for about 15 minutes to be able to put 1 more mag thru, then cool again. SInce I couldn't shoot it more than a few minutes, I sold it for top dollar at that time. Beautiful gun! I heard they later put in a heat shield to "fix" the heat issue. If I could shoot mine for a minimum 50 rounds at a time, I'd still own it.
 
If you need a holster to carry it, the important thing to remember is that it is buttheavy...because of how far back the barrel sits.

I had the good fortune to correspond on this matter with Lou Alessi before his passing. Lou recommended a holster with support points spread further apart or a holster that had enough rearward rake to center the grip over the trigger guard. An example would have been his CQB/s
 
I still have 2, including one with a 4 digit number and a plum slide; both are scary accurate and easy to shoot.
Unless you're one of those who likes to fire mag after mag as fast as you can, there shouldn't be any issues with things heating up
 
George P said:
Unless you're one of those who likes to fire mag after mag as fast as you can, there shouldn't be any issues with things heating up
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I had eight mags with my first PSP and I could shoot all eight in a row. Yes, the gun was hot by then but I could still hold it. I didn't shoot especially slow, nor did I blaze away as fast as I could,(and a P7 will shoot very fast).
 
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