Craziest Gun Training Techniques?

Probably this

Kookla said:

Probably this

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That's gotta be the winner.

We actually use one similar to the last one, in that the timer (A Force Recon Gunny) sat between the two sets of Hostage/Hostile targets with a stopwatch, while we kicked the door, put a 3 rd. burst in the head of the hostile target on ours side, while our partner did the same on his side, then we each crossed over to the other hostile target and put a 3 rd. burst into it's head.
A team of Force Recon Marines came up to Ft. Ord's MOUT setup to use the shoothouse, and the SF CPT. I worked for started talking to the Gunny while our guys were clearing off from 203 training. They had some extra MP5SD3's with, and somehow the captain wrangled an invitation for the two of us to shoot with them. Most fun range day ever, even if I had to do way too many pushups for whizzing one past the Gunny's ear.....

Practicing Bahgdad prone with an AK and using the operating handle for a sight is a very distant second, while practicing snap shots out to 200m with my A1 would be way down there at 3rd.

Making training as realistic as possible is essential for making effective fighters; you fight the way you train. I can't count the times I caught soldiers asleep in their foxholes on FTX's, and the usual response was "It's only an FTX...."
They also had to wear a red line across their throat from my red marker "simulated knife" until they could get to a shower.......

This rather neatly sums up my theory of training....

I went to my rifle/pistol club range one day,,,
And saw a man running towards the targets and shooting.

He stopped when I started to carry my stuff to the line,,,
I asked him why he was doing what he was doing.

He said he was practicing shooting while on the move,,,
His goal was to take long loping strides,,,
And shoot while in the air.

Okay,,,

Aarond

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aarondhgraham said:

His goal was to take long loping strides,,,
And shoot while in the air.

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Maybe he's training for the Space Force. Boots on the moon!

MrBitey said:

Maybe he's training for the Space Force. Boots on the moon!

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"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?",,, I shadown't know.

Aarond

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A guy I'm somewhat familiar with got a bunch of dashboard shrapnel sent his way. He was attempting to shoot through the windshield opening (glass removed) of a junk car, practicing in case he ever had to shoot from inside a vehicle. Had a ND before he got the muzzle high enough to clear the dash.

taliv said:

it's stupid because he's standing still while getting shot, ostensibly because he doesn't want to take a round in the head or arm while dodging.
if you assume you're going to respond like you train, then will he wait til the third round hits his chest before drawing?
it's not brave, it's silly.

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Good catch.

It’s stupid because it involves unnecessary risks. At least the AD at 3:48 was into the dirt and not into one of the idiots standing behind the targets down range.

Years ago I read an interview in a gun magazine by steven seagall where he was discussing his "aikido stance" method of shooting.

I can’t find it now, but there was a training video several years ago with a technique called the “blooming flower of death” or something like that. Guy was spinning around shooting a rifle and handgun at the same time to have rounds covering 360 degrees.

Found it:

Duck. Problem solved. I had someone try a similar thing with MILES; we both entered opposite ends of a GP Medium at the same time. I had PVS 5's on, he did not. I hit the floor, he emptied his 30 rounder on full auto above my head (I could hear the feedback sounds for near misses from the MILES unit), and while he was changing magazines, after the 'bloom' from his muzzle blast susbsided in the NVG's, I popped the sensor on his LBE with one hit. While we were waiting for the officer with the key to shut off his MILES, he screamed at me repeatedly that I "cheated" because I used NVG's. Couldn't get it through his thick head that what 'saved' me was going prone, and that the NVG's were actually a detriment because I had to wait for the bloom to go down.

Sadly not the one I was looking for. This is stupid-lite compared to it:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcQVLO_hX-R/

JennaJ said:

Thanks everyone!

What's a "confidence drill"?

And if anyone has any other suggestions for unorthodox gun training methods, please let me know.

Thanks,

Jenna

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From that video it’s gaining confidence in people that have shot in your direction but haven’t hit you yet.

Likely stems from the group therapy deal where you close your eyes and fall backwards, trusting that some in the group won’t let you hit the ground.

Personally I think they should take it to the next level and have them stand directly in front of the target and have the shooter to train to hit the target while not causing vital wounds to the guy they shoot through, to hit the target.

When just driving away isn't sexy enough

azrocks said:

When just driving away isn't sexy enough

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I know people who've paid a lot of money to go to training courses to learn that sort of stuff. I always viewed it as Action Movie Fantasy Camp.

Thinking you are going to stand there and assume your perfect weaver while the other guy keeps missing. You see it at every "tactical" shooting competition.

waterhouse said:

I can’t find it now, but there was a training video several years ago with a technique called the “blooming flower of death” or something like that. Guy was spinning around shooting a rifle and handgun at the same time to have rounds covering 360 degrees.

Found it:

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Someone's been watching too many 80's sci-fi movies. "Blooming Death - they couldn't even come up with a name that didn't directly point to Last Starfighter (Death Blossom)?

Some pretty crazy stuff out there.

Also a worry with good training taught to people who may not understand the context. AR wielding guys assuming a fight is going to be like a video of a special ops team room busting. A lot of techniques as taught are for force on force, a lot of trainers are military just showing what they have been taught. The problem is you and your family arent a rifle section or platoon where the movement and tactics can support losses. You lose a single member of the family(including you), you lost. Just my personal opinion, you want to defend your home, get training that suits.