Three incidents involved home invasion. The perps were dissuaded by gunpoint.
In another, I had stumbled into a robbery unfolding in a store. The robber sensed that I might be armed and took off. I did not draw.
He did not produce a weapon.
Self defense handgun choices and why.
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In another, I had stumbled into a robbery unfolding in a store. The robber sensed that I might be armed and took off. I did not draw.
He did not produce a weapon.
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Your home got invaded three times ?
No. Twice.
The first time, it was a violent forcible entry. The guy did not seem to have been worried about the car in the driveway.
In the seconds, a man followed a woman who had run out of gasoline, stopped to use the phone, and was unwisely admitted into our house. He tried to kill her, my mother, and me. I was able to step in while the other victims were safely on the floor.
The other incident involved a man breaking into my rental cabin in the mountains in Colorado. Again, there was a car outside.
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That’s gotta be a record of some kind.
Keep in mind that the first event occurred in 1964, and the last, in 2011 .
I'll do my best. As a friend of mine likes to say, "If I knew I was goin' to a gunfight, I'd go somewhere else."
Best line I've heard today.
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Glock 19. Why; I shoot it the best. Comfortable carry. OWB Galco combat master. Capacity, excellent.
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Even if you find yourself in such a predicament getting someplace else is something to strive for.
Would like to know why I have quit being alerted to my own post. Stopped receiving alerts back around #110.
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I'm a bit late to this party...looks like it was a good time by browsing some of the posts! I'll give my own take, with some interesting anectdotes from this interesting year.
First a quick rundown of my operational envelope (put it all tactically for the tactical folks). In addition to personal carry (largely rural) and "woods carry," I am often required to go armed on the job around high value infrastructure facilities. I'm not dedicated security (usually), but am required to be armed due to sensitive information and/or equipment that must be defended while performing my regular work duties (don't mess with a pipeline or substation, a guy covered in dirt wearing a hardhat may be more dangerous than the uniformed security). As a vetted and licensed security officer for a major utility, I am also subject to reserve call up for dedicated security missions. This happened in Minneapolis this year. In those instances, I am expected to provide my own patrol rifle and sidearm within specific parameters. Ammunition is issued.
My standard carry arm is an FNS-9mm. It is an approved sidearm for duty. It's a good combination of capacity, accuracy potential at distance (important for my requirements) and is rock solid reliable. I shoot it extensively at distance. I've fired it in all conditions including full of mud and partially frozen. I carry it in a Safariland L1retention holster that has proven equally rugged. I did successfully dispatch a dangerous black bear with it this summer at aproximately 25 yards, and it was quite comforting to have 17 rounds X 3 on my hip at the Lake Street substation while everything was on fire. It conceals remarkably well with a long shirt or construction vest over the top. I took a nasty spill on that duty, and pistol and holster held up to my 215 or so pounds landing directly on it. I was able to draw and stand off the 3 guys that pushed me down after the fall, so all was well. Fortunately (for them), a couple Nat Guard guys lit them up with mace and dispersed the crowd. I was backed into a corner inside the security perimeter of my target, my ROE were clear at that point.
For woods carry, I pack a Taurus M66 .357. Accurate at range, which is important to me as my normal use for it is popping a bunny with .38 spl hardcast. It's also deer capable, and with 158 .357JSP, I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of it anywhere inside 150 yards.
First a quick rundown of my operational envelope (put it all tactically for the tactical folks). In addition to personal carry (largely rural) and "woods carry," I am often required to go armed on the job around high value infrastructure facilities. I'm not dedicated security (usually), but am required to be armed due to sensitive information and/or equipment that must be defended while performing my regular work duties (don't mess with a pipeline or substation, a guy covered in dirt wearing a hardhat may be more dangerous than the uniformed security). As a vetted and licensed security officer for a major utility, I am also subject to reserve call up for dedicated security missions. This happened in Minneapolis this year. In those instances, I am expected to provide my own patrol rifle and sidearm within specific parameters. Ammunition is issued.
My standard carry arm is an FNS-9mm. It is an approved sidearm for duty. It's a good combination of capacity, accuracy potential at distance (important for my requirements) and is rock solid reliable. I shoot it extensively at distance. I've fired it in all conditions including full of mud and partially frozen. I carry it in a Safariland L1retention holster that has proven equally rugged. I did successfully dispatch a dangerous black bear with it this summer at aproximately 25 yards, and it was quite comforting to have 17 rounds X 3 on my hip at the Lake Street substation while everything was on fire. It conceals remarkably well with a long shirt or construction vest over the top. I took a nasty spill on that duty, and pistol and holster held up to my 215 or so pounds landing directly on it. I was able to draw and stand off the 3 guys that pushed me down after the fall, so all was well. Fortunately (for them), a couple Nat Guard guys lit them up with mace and dispersed the crowd. I was backed into a corner inside the security perimeter of my target, my ROE were clear at that point.
For woods carry, I pack a Taurus M66 .357. Accurate at range, which is important to me as my normal use for it is popping a bunny with .38 spl hardcast. It's also deer capable, and with 158 .357JSP, I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of it anywhere inside 150 yards.
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When I leave the house I pack a 1911 in .45 .357 mag or 10mm. I grew up with the 1911. I have put many many hours working at handling this platform proficiently.
Home defense is the same as above.
As far as a woods gun I live in the country so i recently decided to go with a 10mm Kimber or Coonan.357.
Home defense is the same as above.
As far as a woods gun I live in the country so i recently decided to go with a 10mm Kimber or Coonan.357.
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Sig P365 9mm & Ruger EC9s 9mm
Regarding the discussion, about Page 4:
I doubt that there is enough difference between .38 Super, and 9mm +P, to be significant, at the terminal end, in an antipersonnel context. Reading between the lines of a ton of long-term user reports, over the years, I would rather have a 1911 pistol chambered for .38 Super than 9mm, for any purpose that would directly save my life, or the lives of others, for the reliability factor. (I just might, eventually, acquire a 9mm 1911, to use a dedicated training gun, if 9mm ammo prices ever return to sane levels.) For now, my aging right hand can still tolerate .45 ACP recoil, if I use all-steel 5” 1911 pistols.
Meanwhile, I will use 9mm +P Gold Dots, in my Glocks, without worry. Yes, I use Glocks and 1911 pistols; both have utility. Gen4 and Gen5 Glocks fit my healthier left hand quite well, while being OK for my right hand, and, I have never learned to like any “ambidextrous” 1911 safety I have found, yet.
Of course, if I want to make really deep holes, and not worry about whether my right thumb/hand/wrist will provide a stable platform, while shooting righty, or whether my numb right thumb will cooperate when I want to run a slide, while shooting lefty, there are my several .357 Magnum revolvers, mostly Rugers. Ambidextrous, and able to chamber ammo tailored for various purposes; what’s not to like? If one of my “speedloaders” is a compact autoloader, well, then, we are really talking business.
I doubt that there is enough difference between .38 Super, and 9mm +P, to be significant, at the terminal end, in an antipersonnel context. Reading between the lines of a ton of long-term user reports, over the years, I would rather have a 1911 pistol chambered for .38 Super than 9mm, for any purpose that would directly save my life, or the lives of others, for the reliability factor. (I just might, eventually, acquire a 9mm 1911, to use a dedicated training gun, if 9mm ammo prices ever return to sane levels.) For now, my aging right hand can still tolerate .45 ACP recoil, if I use all-steel 5” 1911 pistols.
Meanwhile, I will use 9mm +P Gold Dots, in my Glocks, without worry. Yes, I use Glocks and 1911 pistols; both have utility. Gen4 and Gen5 Glocks fit my healthier left hand quite well, while being OK for my right hand, and, I have never learned to like any “ambidextrous” 1911 safety I have found, yet.
Of course, if I want to make really deep holes, and not worry about whether my right thumb/hand/wrist will provide a stable platform, while shooting righty, or whether my numb right thumb will cooperate when I want to run a slide, while shooting lefty, there are my several .357 Magnum revolvers, mostly Rugers. Ambidextrous, and able to chamber ammo tailored for various purposes; what’s not to like? If one of my “speedloaders” is a compact autoloader, well, then, we are really talking business.
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I'm going to have to disagree with this, most +P 9mm is around 1250fps. with a 124gr bullet compared to 1400 + for the 38 Super putting it in the .357 magnum territory.
For self defense against humans, the increase would be meaningless in most situations. Why would more penetration be desirable?
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