Any 40s&w Fans?

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Styx said:
As the title says, are there any other 40s&w fans in here? Anyone carry, reload, and/or shoot it regularly? What do you carry and do you reload?

I didn't really care for it one way on another over 9mm. With $500-$600 40s&w handguns selling NIB in low $300s, I've purchased a few in the caliber and have slowly became a fan.

Please no caliber debates or bashing....
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Not a bash - honest. I guess I ruined my first 40 experience by using it in a PPS. The gun was too light and the recoil uncomfortable. I noticed a lot of PD's have returned to the 9mm. I don't know why. These days I try to limit calibers choice among my various types of firearms to as few as possible - so only one semiautomatic caliber for me....
 
Hokkmike said:
Not a bash - honest. I guess I ruined my first 40 experience by using it in a PPS. The gun was too light and the recoil uncomfortable. I noticed a lot of PD's have returned to the 9mm. I don't know why. These days I try to limit calibers choice among my various types of firearms to as few as possible - so only one semiautomatic caliber for me....
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Most casual* shooters will shoot 9mmP better (more accurately & faster follow up shots) than .40 S&W plus you get more rounds in a lighter pistol. And with modern JHPs there isn't any significant difference between 9mmP, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP. Plus 9mmP is cheaper than .40 and if you're supplying ammo fo ran entire department it all adds up.

BSW

* The majority of police are casual shooters and only shoot when forced to for qualification.
 
I have been using .40 S&W since the late ‘90s in issue duty weapons, normally G22s. I have gone through about 6 or so. I have a G27 as well. Usually use Speer 165 grain Gold Dot High Velocity LE ammo.

If you cannot shoot a Glock 27 well, then it is the shooter, not the pistol.
 
BigAlShooter said:
I think it is all relative to what you started using or what you are used to.
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Might be something to that. I've been shooting since I was old enough to hold a firearm. My first "carry" gun in the 90's was a Ruger P90 .45 acp. Then a S&W 686, then went to .40 S&W pistols from Beretta, Glock, S&W.

I simply can't understand those who complain about the recoil and snappiness of .40 S&W pistols. I just chalk up their comments to an improper upbringing with firearms, lol.
 
I've had .40 sw for about 10yrs now. Started with Glock and switched to Springfield when XD came out. I will probably never get rid of my XD. Just like I did with 6.5cm, I resisted 9mm for many years just because that's what everyone else seemed to like. I now own a few 9mm auto's, but the XD .40 is still my favorite.
 
Have a couple 9's a couple of 40's and a 45. Like to shoot the 45 the best but carry a 40. Load for all of them plus 38's 357's and 44 mag.
 
I don't know, I enjoy shooting the 40S&W in my XD (and 10mm, too). ;)

Styx said:
It's the gun, not the ammo.... It was very unpleasant to shoot 45acp out the XDS too, but I had no problem shooting 40 & 45 out the Shield. Matter of fact, the only other snappy guns I fired (excluding the XDS 45) were little pocket 9mms like the DB9 and .357 out of a lightweight Snubby.. never had a problem recoil wise shooting 40 or 45 out of other guns...
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Garandimal said:
The .40 S&W was purpose built and intelligently designed.

The .40/180 gr. HP - is the apex of combat cartridges.

The 4" Bbl'ed compacts, like the Glock G23.4, are apex SD/CCW pistols.

Everything else is a compromise.








GR
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What exactly do you mean by .40 S&W isn't a compromise? The entire purpose of .40 S&W was a compromise between full power 10mm Auto ballistics and the gun size required and recoil generated by using that cartridge.

Not to be pedantic, but every cartridge is a compromise. We'd all love a pistol cartridge with the size of a .22 LR and the ballistics of a .44 Magnum but those darn engineers just haven't delivered on that yet.

BSW
 
briansmithwins said:
What exactly do you mean by .40 S&W isn't a compromise? The entire purpose of .40 S&W was a compromise between full power 10mm Auto ballistics and the gun size required and recoil generated by using that cartridge.

Not to be pedantic, but every cartridge is a compromise. We'd all love a pistol cartridge with the size of a .22 LR and the ballistics of a .44 Magnum but those darn engineers just haven't delivered on that yet.

BSW
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Because w/ the .40/180 gr. and a 4" Bbl'ed Compact pistol... you get it all.

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GR
 
With a compact pistol you're compromising sight radius, felt recoil, and ammo capacity to get a smaller package lighter package that's easier to conceal compared to a full size service pistol.

I get that that's a compromise you're willing to make but it is a compromise.

For me, I can't quite shoot a .40 USP as fast as a USP in 9mm, so that's a compromise for me, along with the lower mag capacity that comes along with .40.

BSW
 
briansmithwins said:
With a compact pistol you're compromising sight radius, felt recoil, and ammo capacity to get a smaller package lighter package that's easier to conceal compared to a full size service pistol.

I get that that's a compromise you're willing to make but it is a compromise.

For me, I can't quite shoot a .40 USP as fast as a USP in 9mm, so that's a compromise for me, along with the lower mag capacity that comes along with .40.

BSW
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You don't understand.

I get that.

Class dismissed.




GR
 
I'm a 40 fan. But I am also a 9mm fan, a 357 sig fan and a 357 magnum fan and if I can ever afford that Redhawk 45 Colt/45 ACP, I will be a 45 Colt fan. I like 'em all - I'm a caliber whore!

That being said, I have a M&P compact in 40 that is my go to carry. I mostly carry in the woods when hiking or backpacking. I have conversion barrels and magazines for 9mm and 357 sig and will switch it up from time to time, but usually it is in the 40 configuration. To me, the 40 is a good mix of power and capacity. I load for it. I have some 180 grain hard cast for nastier critters that I might meet in the woods - and some 155 and 165 grain loads for more mundane threats.
 
DMW1116 said:
The only one I've shot was my brothers P94 Ruger. It took some getting used to but I finally figured out how to shoot it. After that it was a pretty accurate pistol and liked the 180 grain loads better than lower weights.
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Agree the P94 soaks up recoil nicely,My other 40 is the ruger carbine,same mags as the P94 pistol. combo guns
 

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I tried talking him into that exact combo, but the panic had hit and he didn't have the $$ for the increased price of the PCC. Would have been a sweet combo though.
 
Hugger-4641 said:
I've had .40 sw for about 10yrs now. Started with Glock and switched to Springfield when XD came out. I will probably never get rid of my XD. Just like I did with 6.5cm, I resisted 9mm for many years just because that's what everyone else seemed to like. I now own a few 9mm auto's, but the XD .40 is still my favorite.
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The first pistol I owned was a Springfield XD 45 with the 5 inch barrel. That gun was so damn accurate, and I shot it better than my HKs and CZ 97B. I was an idiot and sold it. Sure wish I hadn't. Seriously underrated gun.

I also sold the only 40 I ever bought, a Sig P226. Thinking about picking up another 40 some time, but I also shoot 10mm, and those pistols can shoot 40 as well, so at least I have the option.
 
Anchorite said:
I’ve got a question - might veer us off the OP, but who makes a 40 nowadays that has a steel, or alloy frame? Sig comes to mind, but are there any other manufacturers?
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Tanfoglio (love them) and CZ I think are the last, I'm pretty sure the rest bailed. So it's NOS, used or no purchases at all for me ever. I don't care or follow the what the FBI, local PD, military or the herd does. If a company doesn't make what I want and / or I can't convert it to .40 I make no second choices. The antis hate this fact, a well cared for gun can last a hundred years longer than I or my son will :)
 
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I carry, reload for and flat love the handleability of my Firestar in .40 S&W. Yup...It's a bit heavy...Yup...My friend says it would make a great boat anchor. I much prefer an all steel gun.

I, also, have a 9mmX19 Firestar. Great range gun. Bit under powered for carry IM[not so]HO. Both the 9mm and the .40 are very accurate.
 
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