Most effective short barreled big game stopper
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.45Coltguy
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How many posters here have actually had to use a "stopping rifle/cartridge in a real brown bear/grizzly bear situation? We weren't discussing Africa game, so, forget that.
I know I never have. Would be pretty sporty for most.
I know I never have. Would be pretty sporty for most.
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I know this is a RIFLE thread but the best short-range "stopper" is a 10 or 12 ga. 18" shotgun with 000 buckshot. I know it folds up a 200 lb. hog @ 10 feet quite well and works out to 30+ yards most effectively.
Better put overloads on that Jeep. The gun on a Warthog, plus ammo, weighs over 4000 pounds.
troy fairweather
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Plus the fact the gun can slow the a10 air speed by half when firing, the jeep would flip over lol.
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Well, let's go with a good 1-ton flatbed, (with a beefed up suspension) and have it pointing backwards.
The OP was looking for a dual purpose rifle, hunting game and stopping (dangerous game) potentially bears. That would not be a shotgun. Nobody goes moose hunting or bear hunting with a scattergun. Well, nobody I know of anyways. That would force a dangerous encounter, imagine trying to hunt a moose and have to get within 20 or 30 yards when with a rifle that could be done at several hundred yards. And if upon attempted retrieval the moose decides it is not dead and wants to stomp the hunter he can then stop him (a second time) up close with a hard hitting rifle.
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They limit the gun (cannon) to 3 second bursts because the A10 will stall in midair if they allowed more. Amazing weapon.
adcoch1
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Should stop a bear in the brush...
Charlie Martinez
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I am with the 35 Remington fan club. It's a great cartridge IMHO because it's powerful at close range (ie charging bear ranges), doesn't kick much and comes in an excellent short barreled lever action rifle called the Marlin 336. If the 44 Magnum in a revolver is adequate for big bears the 35 Remington in a short barreled rifle would be more than enough. If I were wondering the Alaskan wilderness and wanted a rifle strictly for my personal protection I would not feel under gunned at all with my 336 Marlin in 35 Remington & a 44 Magnum revolver as backup.
someguy2800
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woah now, it’s getting pretty deep in here and I don’t have my waders on
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How many times do we need to hash this minutiae......????
Bears big and bad.....large bores hard hitting and good......
Blaa blaa blaa .....how many of all of you REALLY been in big bear country and can you put heavy rounds on target under REAL bad situations... ...
Put real heavy bullets in the right spot and you will survive.....don't...and you might not....really that simple.
I was attacked last year by a sow black bear with a cub..... and it was really scary..... I was lucky and didn't need to kill the sow and survived.....until you have been there it is really all just ....blaa blaa blaa
Bears big and bad.....large bores hard hitting and good......
Blaa blaa blaa .....how many of all of you REALLY been in big bear country and can you put heavy rounds on target under REAL bad situations... ...
Put real heavy bullets in the right spot and you will survive.....don't...and you might not....really that simple.
I was attacked last year by a sow black bear with a cub..... and it was really scary..... I was lucky and didn't need to kill the sow and survived.....until you have been there it is really all just ....blaa blaa blaa
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Haaaarrrrumph!
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That’s a good weapon choice. I use mine in Africa and in bear country. 454 Casull as a backup.
sarduy
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20” bolt action in .308 and 200gr bullets or a 16” AR10 with a 20-25 Rounds mag shooting 180gr
But really, why risk it? If you are hunting bear get a bear gun 22” barrel chambered in 300 PRC
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Really. I'd love to see some data to back that up. I'm pretty sure that's an urban legend. Sure the plane slows down. We have Newton to thank for that.
There is an issue with the engine ingesting gas from the gun.
But stall? hmmm... show me and I'll believe it.
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Hey Wellyfast- may be easier to skip these redundant posts/threads than to read them. That said some people just like to talk, or read, or make comments about their individual choices. Guess I’m one of those, and I enjoy them. Sometimes I get new ideas or solutions. Anyway, I enjoy the blaa blaa blaa - keep it up folks,
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someguy2800
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correct, and the engines produce that thrust continuously while the gun produces that thrust for a few milliseconds per shot. Plus whenever your using the gun you would be in decent.
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How short (in inches)and is the measure of power ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle?
Charlie Martinez
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I have; British Columbia back in the 80's hunting moose and grizzly. Carried a 7 mm Rem Magnum but I was hunting and shots were long. For personal protection where shots are close my Marlin 336 in 35 Remington would have been fine. One guide carried a Browning lever action in 358 Win (a nice rifle) and another a Winchester lever action in 375 Win. which I believe is close in ballistics and energy as the 35 Rem. Their rifles were mostly intended for close up shooting backup work.
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Bang for buck for a hunting/stopping rifle, a .375 H&H/Ruger has to be a top contender. Good velocity and range capability along with huge penetration and stopping power out of a 20 or 22” barrel.
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