Cimarron Pistolero .45 Colt

Status
Not open for further replies.
geo57

geo57

Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2003
Messages
610
Location
South Central Nebraska
I got out to shoot my newly acquired Cimarron Pistolero .45 Colt . I'd rather the grip frame not be brass but for the price I got it for I can live with it. The action is smooth, lockup & timing seems fine so far and it has a good trigger. Fired primer dents were deep & well centered. I think for the price point the bluing & color case hardening is pretty decent.
My hand load is a Hornady 250 gr. XTP on top of 8.0 grs. of Unique, in Starline and Winchester brass with a Winchester LPP. It seemed to like it as much as my old 7 1/2 " Blackhawk .45 Colt does. I find this load to be accurate enough for me shooting these for pleasure one handed. While it isn't loaded quite as warm as original .45 Colt it still provides the recoil level that I enjoy. It's about a 90 % Tier 1 load. With it, you know that you aren't shooting a powder puff load.

So far so good with this Pietta / Cimarron.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_7517.jpg
    IMG_7517.jpg
    122.4 KB · Views: 117
Last edited:
Nice sixgun.
A coworker picked up the same model a couple months ago (he likes the brass) and can't say enough good things about it (almost had me going to get one myself)

He reloads for it as well but I don't think he ever told me his "recipe"
 
Where the base pin enters the frame at the front you might
see a maker's mark or stamping.
 
Kevin

That's one fine looking shootin' iron you've got there, especially the color case hardening and those grips!
 
The penny front sight is traditional, too.

I don't understand the economics of the brass grip frame on entry level revolvers.
Brass costs more than steel, is it THAT much cheaper to cast and clean up than to forge and machine steel? Guess so.
 
Love my Cimarron/Pietta thunderer style SA. Except it shoots low with that big honking front sight...

index.php
 
The Italians, Germans, Belgians, etc. who build these do not actually case harden the frames. They merely apply a multi-color finish that mimics the case hardening. Iron can be casehardened p, steel can not be case hardened.


Kevin
 
StrawHat said:
The Italians, Germans, Belgians, etc. who build these do not actually case harden the frames. They merely apply a multi-color finish that mimics the case hardening. Iron can be casehardened p, steel can not be case hardened.
Kevin
Click to expand...
Now that is interesting, and confirms something I've suspected for some time. I'll reserve judgement about color case only working on iron, but do believe that current color case, even from Turnbull, is a coating.
Thnx,
Moon
 
From what I remember from metallurgy classes, iron does not have enough carbon to harden by heating and quenching. Case hardenening, requires you to pack the piece in an airtight bottle with scraps of leather, charcoal or other bits of carbon, and heat it to force the carbon into the surface. This is why a casehardened piece is only hard for a few thousandths of an inch. Steel, is a homogenous mixture of carbon and iron. You can do the casing procedure but your piece will be hardened completely through, not just on the surface.


Kevin
 
I passed on an Uberti in fine shape a number of years ago. At the time I had Blackhawk on the brain and would not settle for anything else. I scratched the Blackhawk itch, but always wish I would have listened to the old fellow at the LGS counter that day. He was really pushing the Uberti, I think he was impressed someone younger than him was interested in a single action revolver.

-Jeff
 
Bartojc said:
I passed on an Uberti in fine shape a number of years ago. At the time I had Blackhawk on the brain and would not settle for anything else. I scratched the Blackhawk itch, but always wish I would have listened to the old fellow at the LGS counter that day. He was really pushing the Uberti, I think he was impressed someone younger than him was interested in a single action revolver.

-Jeff
Click to expand...

Well, now you need to get one. When I bought my Henry in .45 Colt, I decided I needed a .45 Colt revolver to go along with it. Bought two! Pietta " Gun Fighter" with some nice CCH and a Uberti/Taylors "Old Randall". Imagine that!
Edit: The Pietta also came with a .45 acp cylinder. Win-win.
 
StrawHat said:
The Italians, Germans, Belgians, etc. who build these do not actually case harden the frames. They merely apply a multi-color finish that mimics the case hardening. Iron can be casehardened p, steel can not be case hardened.


Kevin
Click to expand...
Case hardening is the addition of carbon to the surface of a steel surface. Cast iron has much more carbon than steel. After the carbon is added by "soaking" in high carbon gas, charcoal, or even peach pits, it is quenched to harden the surface while leaving the underlying metal softer though still tough. Your statement is backwards. Cast iron is very high in carbon content. Steels are lower. Wrought iron is lowest.
 
Not all steel is the same... 1018 is IIRC .18 % carbon. 1040 is .40% carbon. Metallurgy was a number of years ago so my mind is fuzzy. I think only the 10 series steels can be classified like that.

Cast iron also varies. There are gray and green subtypes. All with their own alloy makeup.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Y
  • Locked
Uberti Cimarron "Pistolero" and "Badlands"
Replies
2
Views
4K
Jim March
J
T
  • Locked
Cimarron Revolvers
2
Replies
39
Views
4K
messerist
M
Tallball
Cimarron Pistolero 9mm NiB
Replies
9
Views
1K
Tallball
Tallball
O
  • Locked
Cimarron Arms Colt SAA replica opinions...
Replies
4
Views
2K
StrikeEagle
S
Tallinar
EMF Great Western II vs. Cimarron Frontier - Differences?
2 3
Replies
57
Views
5K
geo57
geo57
Back
Top