Oregon passes 114 - $65 to purchase a firearm and no mags over 10 rounds

I'm sure Oregon criminals will comply.

They just want to score points.
They can appease gun grabbers and not anger the gun community because there's no way this will stand in court.
California's high cap ban is all but finished, I saw a new article about some of the big municipalities dropping mag or spiking high cap magazine cases.

Arbitrary 10 round magazine limit was worthless in 1994 and still is.

CDW4ME said:

Arbitrary 10 round magazine limit was worthless in 1994 and still is.

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I'd start carrying 10 rounds of 460 Rowland if I had to limit myself to 10. or maybe even open carry with a desert eagle in 50 AE just to really make my point.

This is what is happening to Oregon and not just concerning 2a. Californian's moving north and turning our state into the pit they left.

N555 said:

there's no way this will stand in court.

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Agreed, but it will take a while for a suitable case to be developed and to wind its way through the courts.

Apparently you can tangle anything that you don't like in legalese and then hang it up in court.
By the time that the court tosses it out you have tangled it up in a different bunch of legalese and then send it back to the courts.
Rinse and repeat... .

Did I hear it correctly, that one of the "wrinkles" in 114 is that, to get a purchase permit, you have to complete live fire training?

So, that a first time buyer would have to get access, somehow, to firearm, to go through live fire training, to apply of the permit to purchase a firearm?

Such Oregonians simply don't want Poor people, including Minorities, to legally buy a gun for self-defense.

WA has had a 10 rd limit since this summer. Lots of other states have them also. Why won't it survive Bruen? Just asking because apparently states have a right to limit mag capacity and lots of other things.

Sure, it will get it's due review in the courts but remember OR is in the 9th district.

The magazine restriction is the lesser issue; the permit fee is an illegal poll tax. The goobermint cannot tax people to exercise their constitutional rights.

Sounds like your politicians are taking notes from ours here in Washington DC. Ten round mag limit, fee to register the gun, now all you need is absurdly long background check and waiting periods and a registration process for each gun and you can really share in our suffering

CoalTrain49 said:

WA has had a 10 rd limit since this summer. Lots of other states have them also. Why won't it survive Bruen? Just asking because apparently states have a right to limit mag capacity and lots of other things.

Sure, it will get it's due review in the courts but remember OR is in the 9th district.

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The SCOTUS GVRed two cases covering magazine bans and an assault weapons ban right around the time they issued Bruen, pretty clearly telegraphing their intent.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-la...ult-weapon-magazine-bans-back-to-lower-courts

CoalTrain49 said:

WA has had a 10 rd limit since this summer. Lots of other states have them also. Why won't it survive Bruen? Just asking because apparently states have a right to limit mag capacity and lots of other things.

Sure, it will get it's due review in the courts but remember OR is in the 9th district.

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It will survive. It does not matter what the courts rule, they have no power of enforcement. If Oregon simply ignores the ruling nothing happens.

Guarantee lawsuits are being worked on by GOA, FPC, SAF, NRA if they have any money left. State Rifle assn.

Two threads about it, interesting.

And I do find it alarming that the entire west coast all have magazine limits on standard capacity magazines.

Will Munny said:

It will survive. It does not matter what the courts rule, they have no power of enforcement. If Oregon simply ignores the ruling nothing happens.

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well in theory they can call on “officers” of the court to enforce a ruling if they need to, but as far as I’m aware that has never actually happened in the US and the closest precedent there is was a case in Canada involving the military refusing to turn over a witness. I don’t think anything happened and it was solved with political intervention but the idea of a bunch of lawyers marching on a military base to try and enforce a ruling make me smile.

CapnMac said:

Did I hear it correctly, that one of the "wrinkles" in 114 is that, to get a purchase permit, you have to complete live fire training?

So, that a first time buyer would have to get access, somehow, to firearm, to go through live fire training, to apply of the permit to purchase a firearm?

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Correct

The_Quartermaster said:

the entire west coast all have magazine limits on standard capacity magazines.

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Not quite.

CA's magazine ban Duncan v Bonta was already ruled unconstitutional with judgement by district court judge Benitez in March of 2019 and was appealed to the Supreme Court and remanded back down to judge Benitez for reconsideration post Bruen where the "two step" approach was removed and now only "text and history" approach is to be used.

He is anticipated to rule CA magazine ban unconstitutional again and a hearing is scheduled for 12/12/22 -
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-aw-magazine-ban.905531/page-10#post-12446121

JohnB-40 said:

This is what is happening to Oregon and not just concerning 2a. Californian's moving north and turning our state into the pit they left.

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Oregon has not elected a Republican governor in 40 years. It is like most states, one city, or a few counties, control the rest of the people.

Portland can stew in its own broth. Vote stupid, live stupid. Everyone else, tell Portland to pound sand.

Stay safe.

Oregon has been politically schizophrenic for a while. Simultaneously one of the most "laws don't matter" states and "here are some more laws" states.
I call them banarchists.

I am sorry that the people in oregon would vote to restrict there god given rights it just amazes me.I know what its like to live in a state like that i am from newyork state the majority fools here just elected the worse person and gov. i have ever seen.I just do not understand the thinking or lack of .

CDW4ME said:

Arbitrary 10 round magazine limit was worthless in 1994 and still is.

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Yep never payed much attention to it. There were plenty of 10+ mags available on GB. Got a bunch of those leo only mags after it was over for cheap...

Oregon has not passed 114...yet. 72 percent of the votes have been reported with a .4 percent difference between. Plenty of votes will be reported today, let's hope it end up a no.