kaferhaus said:
1st I'd never allow anyone to bring a firearm into my house unless they were INVITED WITH THE FIREARM.
I think your question is absurd.
Bringing a concealed weapon into someones home without their prior consent is begging to be shot or humiliated in front of everyone else there.
I've had a CWP for over 30yrs and I've never even considered carrying a gun into someone else's home.
WHY would you even consider such an action? Are you in fear of your life at this person's home? If so, why the hell are you going?
I can respect that opinion. As a self-contained opinion, it makes sense. The property rights and rules of the homeowner have lots of sway in the right-thinking world.
However, I can't say it's absolute either.
Do I have any business knowing what's under my guest's clothes that's not a firearm? Where is the line drawn? Does their person and property cease being their person and property because they've willingly set foot on mine? Can I give everyone a cavity search?
I admit these are extreme examples, but they prove the point. There is a line where items that are secure, concealed, and unacknoledged can't possibly be of any true harm to myself, should my guests have them on their person.
It's arguable that an unacknoledged firearm that is safe, secure, and 100% concealed from detection the entire time it's on his person in someone else's home could fall into that category. If the host never knows, and the gun was responsibly carried, what is the true harm?
What if I were a conservative Christian Scientist who eschews all medical assistance & drugs, and one of my guests is wearing an insulin pump, or a nitroglycerine heart patch?
Perhaps I'm Jewish or Muslim, and one of my gentile guests has a lunch containing pork still working it's way through his bowels, and he enters my home?
OTOH, things like a jury-rigged and unstable explosive, a vial of gaseous poison, or a paper bag full of hornets is another matter. Those all have great potential to force themselves on the external environment outside their person. However, we all know that quality firearms properly holstered have zero chance of "going off". Unlike the media, we know that guns only "go off" when placed in fire, or when they're being manipulated by someone who is careless.
While everyone has a right to what and who enters their private property, I can't also help but feel that people are little wandering islands of private property too. If something I
may find objectionable enters my home, but it's secure on my guest's person, and has little or no risk of forcing itself on the external environment, I'm not sure it's my business.
The very reason we carry is that
we don't know when or where we may need it. If we did, it would be easier to just avoid those places and times.
jlbraun still needs to travel to the party, and travel home, what about then? While the odds are against it, can the host garuantee that there won't be a home invasion robbery during the party? (It has happened, and the results were horrific. They were eventualy all killed, but before, they were held for days and forced to "perform" on each other for the invaders...)
It's a complex issue, and one with many legitamate opinions. You ultimately need to make your own decision as to what is acceptable.
- Ask the host.
- Don't carry.
- Carry on the way there and back, and keep it locked in your car.
- Carry and tell no one, if you can be very sure you won't be "made", and you know how to carry securely and safely.
- Compromise: Some people here carry a mousegun for when they're "unarmed".
Frankly, this is one of those sticky issues where you can go around forever, and both sides (and in between) have valid points and arguments. Your safety and your host's rights balance out pretty evenly. Do whatever is discreet and safe. If that means you don't carry, then don't carry. If that mean's you can carry, carry.
It's up to you.
