Homer Simpson gets a gun...

I loved the scene where the convenience store is being robbed and the clerk is offended by being told what to do by the perp and he says "I know the procedure for armed robbery." in his Southern Asian accent.

In one Treehouse of Horror II, ("The Monkey's Paw") Lisa's wish was for world peace. So the inhabitants of Earth destroyed all their weapons, disbanded the miltary and police and became hippies... and that's when Kodos and Kang conquered Earth with a slingshot and a club. ("Your superior intellects are no match for our puny weapons!")

The invasion is ended when Flanders gets the monkey's paw and wishes for the aliens to be gotten rid of; Moe the bartender winds up picking up a board with a nail in it and chasing the aliens back to their space ship, where they issue the warning, "...the humans will make bigger boards, with bigger nails, until one day, they make a board with a nail so big they will destroy themselves..."
Kinda seems like they are pointing out that weapons for self-defense are not a bad idea, eh?

It is just a tv show. I think its hilarious. Either way, who really cares?

Probably one of the funniest pro-gun arguments comes from American Dad: http://youtube.com/watch?v=X6bbXgUNOws

Family Guy is very anti-gun and so is American Dad, a friend of mine loves these shows and I can't understand why. From the little I've seen of them they are extremely liberal. Funny one of the few episodes of American Dad that I did see was the anti-gun one back when the show first came on the air.

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Uh what? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6bbXgUNOws

Family Guy also had a nice pro gun segment in there Y2K episode back in the year 2000.

If you guys honestly watch cartoons and actually rate them as liberal or conservative or pro-gun or anti-gun then you have missed the entire point of the show.

You also have problems...

The Simpsons, Family Guy, and American Dad are not necessarily anti- or pro-gun. They joke about everybody, whether it be conservatives, liberals, or popular media.

Then again, they're just cartoons meant for entertainment, and people are getting all bent out of shape.

Frankly, if it comes to the point where society learns their values from cartoons shown on evening television, the society is doomed whether it's anti- or pro-gun.

Frankly, if it comes to the point where society learns their values from cartoons shown on evening television, the society is doomed whether it's anti- or pro-gun.

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Umm... people don't read. People don't interact. People don't talk to their neighbors. People don't even know their neighbors at times. (This is a BROAD generalization, I come from small town midwest where I know this is not true, but a very large portion of our population now exists in the way I describe)

If you are going to despair of a society that gets its values from cartoons and its news from Late Night talk shows... DESPAIR.

Ironically, I think the video games where people talk and play together from around the world are one of the last vestiges many people will have of true human interaction...

Perhaps if we got more people involved in shooting, this trend might be reversed? They'd want to know what their neighbors have, how to better shoot, go to the range together....

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If you guys honestly watch cartoons and actually rate them as liberal or conservative or pro-gun or anti-gun then you have missed the entire point of the show.

You also have problems...

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Animation today IS relevant. It isn't just "cartoons" anymore, and those with a finger on the pulse of society will recognize this. South Park, for example, is actively involved in politics. They have well crafted messages and they get ratings. You can bury your head in the sand, but that won't change the impact and influence of these shows. They ARE pertinenent.

When my man Ted Nugent "appeared" on the show this past October I just started loving the show more! Seriously doubt that Ted would align himself with a show perceived as anti. Or, perhaps, like a lot of us he's just a big fan of a great show that has become a part of our pop culture.

I dont worry about the politics of the cartoons i watch ! or regular TV either !I watch them to be entertained ! If I am offended i stop watching ! By the way i am a Power Plant control room operator by trade ! i even had an audible alarm set to say "DOH" when a parameter went out of spec !

Watch the Family Guy episode dealing witht he end of the world. The family survives, and starts a new town. Peter is in charge, decides to blow allt heir resources into making guns. After he is banished, and all the guns are destroyed, a character makes a remark that they are now completely defenseless, just as they are attacked and destroyed by mutant Stewies.

The Fox cartoons make fun of everything. Personally, I can't stand it when a show takes one complete side, even when it is mine. I have a lot more respect for the shows that make fun of everyone equally. Heck, Fox is probably the most mocked entity in its own cartoons.

And cartoons are very relevant. Why would a cartoon be any less relevant, than a serious, well done movie? Sure, they are different forms of TV, but they both serve the same purpose. They simply appeal to different crowds.

It was this particular episode where Lisa quoted the Kellermann study. "You're more likely to kill yourself or a family member than an intruder". I see this same argument used against gun ownership every few months, and i bet i know where they heard it.

Hi Jef,

And cartoons are very relevant. Why would a cartoon be any less relevant, than a serious, well done movie? Sure, they are different forms of TV, but they both serve the same purpose. They simply appeal to different crowds.

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You remind me much of another conversation I found myself in dealing whether 'Kim Possible' gives girls the 'right outlook.' What happened to the idea of cartoons being fun entertainment?

Selena

Nothing can just be fun entertainment anymore. Fun doesn't pay the big bills. I'm afraid its all marketing/political bullcrap.

I think every shotgun on that show is a pump double. Just to combine the menacing "Schlunk-schlunk" sound with the menacing two barrels.

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Not true--Homer occasionally has a pump action double-barrel semi-automatic. Ever see the show where Homer burns down the church with a model rocket? He racks up a double and then proceeds to fire multiple shots without pumping it again.

Surprisingly, the Simpsons Movie has a very accurate portrayal of an exposed hammer double at the end of the movie.

I'll concede that clip of American Dad almost makes up for the anti-vibe I got from the amusement park episode. Maybe they are more split minded than I give them credit for. Honestly I could care less if Family Guy or American Dad is pro or anti I still won't watch them because I think the writing sucks. At the same time I wouldn't care if Simpsons, King of the Hill or South Park is pro or anti because I think the writing on those shows is brilliant.

I do have to disagree that these shows don't send out political messages, whether you choose to embrace those messages or not is in the end up to you. I'm also a fan of the Daily Show and Colbert Report, I know those shows get a lot of flack on here but I enjoy them and that's all that matters to me. I'm certainly not implying that just because something is liberal doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed people of all political and social views.

So I retract my statement early on that Family Guy and American Dad are extremely anti-gun, honestly I haven't watched enough of either of those shows to make that assumption. I've seen probably a dozen Family Guy's and half a dozen American Dad's. They still seem liberal to me, but like I said so are a lot of the shows I watch and I'm not saying that is a terrible thing, but I can understand why certain people don't like them. I can say however that I don't find Simpsons, South Park or King of the Hill anti-gun because I own every season of all of those shows and have watch many of them more then once, never have I seen anything that struck me as overtly anti-gun in any of those.

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Umm... people don't read. People don't interact. People don't talk to their neighbors. People don't even know their neighbors at times. (This is a BROAD generalization, I come from small town midwest where I know this is not true, but a very large portion of our population now exists in the way I describe)

If you are going to despair of a society that gets its values from cartoons and its news from Late Night talk shows... DESPAIR.

Ironically, I think the video games where people talk and play together from around the world are one of the last vestiges many people will have of true human interaction...

Perhaps if we got more people involved in shooting, this trend might be reversed? They'd want to know what their neighbors have, how to better shoot, go to the range together....

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I see you understood the point of my post.

The gun store was : Blood, bath and beyond!

Still cracks me up.

The Cartridge Family is one of my all time favorite episodes of The Simpsons. It makes fun of both the pro and anti gun agendas. Here are some of my favorite quotes from this episode:

Homer: I'd like to buy your deadliest gun, please.
Gun Shop Owner: Aisle six, next to the sympathy cards.

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Marge: I'm a lucky woman.
Homer: And I'm a wonderful man.

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Homer: But Marge, I swear to you... I never thought you'd find out!

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Salesman: But surely you can't put a price on your family's lives!
Homer: I wouldn't have thought so either, but here we are.

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(Lisa is looking sad)
Homer: What's wrong Lisa?
Lisa: My ball is stuck on the roof.
Homer: No problem.
(Homer shoots the ball flat and it falls off the roof)
Homer: Want me to get the cat down?
Lisa: No thanks.

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Gun Shop Owner: Whoah! Careful there Annie Oakley.
Homer: I don't have to be careful, I got a gun.

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The episode where Mayor Quimby declares the town utterly defenseless is a TreeHouse of Horrors episode. Lisa sees William Bonney's headstone which reads "I dream of a world without guns." The town then bans guns and William Bonney and his gang come back to life and rob the town. Upon entering the town William Bonney waves his guns around and says: "Now these are the only guns in town".

Don't forget on South Park when in the Land of Imagination, Butters summons up a M60 machine gun for Jesus.

Don't forget on South Park when in the Land of Imagination, Butters summons up a M60 machine gun for Jesus.

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Yes, he summoned it by name. That's what cracked me up about that.

So my cheapskate family (I taught them well) brought me for my birthday the 11 year old box set of the Simpsons season 9 from the discount bin at the Kwik-E-Mart. It has an episode called The Cartridge Family. So I thought I would resurrect this thread from the dead and add a link to the script for that episode:

http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/scripts/cartridge-family.php

And if you don’t like the Simpsons making fun of gun “culture”, please refer to the immoral words of Homer: “Oh, Marge, cartoons don’t have any deep meaning. They’re just stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh.”

I thought it was a pretty funny episode




"and that's how you can turn one gun into five guns."

I always got a chuckle out of this American Dad clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmp9Ei_bUpI

I'm guessing somebody posted it, but the old links are no longer there.