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Ok, let's play a game. You're at a red light. It's kinda late. It's kinda dimly lit. There's isn't anyone on the street.

Wham! Dude breaks on your drivers side window and demands you get out of the car. He's got a crowbar in his hand. He might have a gun but you don't see one.

What do you do, hotshot? What do you do?

A) sit there with a dumb look on your face and wait for him to brain you with the crowbar?

B) go for your weapon while in the seated position and fire up at the guy.

C) get out of the car, keeping your strong side (hope you're a righty) away from the attacker, gain the high ground on him as well as mobility, then draw and ask him if he feels lucky?

or

D) ask him why he's so angry? and if there's anything you can do to help?
 
If I could drive away without causing an accident, evasion would definitely be my preferred method of dealing with said situation. If not (people in crosswalk, busy cross traffic), then I'd drop his @$$ where he stands.
 
Ok, suppose there's no way to drive off, that's the condition. you have to confront this guy. have you ever drawn from aseated position in a bucket seat? It aint easy and I'm sure most people don't practice it. In fact fidding with your hip holster seems to me about the last thing I'd want to do if there's a 6'3" 250# sweaty ugly bad guy satnding over me with a crow bar..

It had occured to me that If you're able to get out of the car, you'd earn yourself some room to move around in and possibly get the drop on this guy who thinks he's getting away with my truck that's got my dog in it. (We'll assume I can hit the bg w/o hitting the dog, of course) The question I have is in regard to the law and if that seems like a plausible way to handle the situation..
 
this belongs in strat and tat

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I never have my pistol on my person in the car. It is ALWAYS in the passenger seat OR the back deck(Corvette)if I have a passenger. It would be easy for me to grab the gun if needed. When I leave the car, I holster my weapon inside the car.

To answer the question. IF there was no escape route, I would let him know I have a weapon. If that did nothing, I would let him hit the car ONCE before I dropped him. Even though it would damage the car, it would show cause for me using self-defense.
 
Ok, suppose there's no way to drive off, that's the condition.
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Here's your assignment for the next week:

At every stop light you get stopped at, make sure your vehicle is positioned in an outside lane, unblocked by poles, signs, etc. on the curb, and with enough room between you and the vehicle/intersection in front of you that you can get away if needed.

This is an exercise. You may be surprised at how well you can position yourself when you actively try to.
 
Option 2 is to jump out and run like hell. Trying to outdraw someone who's already got the drop on you is an invitation to suicide. I'll let the insurance company worry about the car.

The pooch is on his own. He can either follow or become the carjacker's new best friend.
 
Get out, move toward the front of the vehicle and empty a mag into him. He had a weapon. The Detailers and body shops are pretty good at what they do these days. Ask the detailers to save you any teeth they find for some trophy jewelry to be made.
 
It is ALWAYS in the passenger seat OR the back deck(Corvette)if I have a passenger.

Or on the floor if you've stopped suddenly.
 
What Doggy Daddy said. If you can see the rear tires of the car in front of you in contact with the ground, you've got enough room to get around it if you have a clear lane to one side or the other (you are also authorized to jump the curb if you can do so without taking out a baby buggy or something).
 
Call me foolish but when I'm driving in traffic, I have the weapon holstered and on my hip for the reason that I know, then, where it is at all times. I don't want to shove it in a crevasse or leave it laying loose on the seat for fear of what was said earlier. Hit the brakes real hard once and you've got no clue where your piece is. I'd rather feel it digging into my side. I want to know where it is at all times. If I don't have it and I cant see it, I have to assume that it's no longer under my control at which point it's useless at best and a liability.

Oh and I liked the idea of trophy teeth. a little morbid, but hey, he did have a weapon.
 
One of the first things any LEO at the academy learns in vehicle training is "never let yourself get boxed in." My FTO was a stickler for it. Engaging a BG from a seated position in a car is bad juju. Getting out of the car to engage him when he is too close is even worse juju. If forced to exit the vehicle, do so on the opposite side from the guy with the crowbar, but be on the lookout for accomplices. Otherwise, if you've been alert and aware, you'll floor it and use your 2,000 pound high speed weapon to gain his compliance. :cool:
 
Sitting in the seat belt I can't easily get to my carry gun but these are handy.
Basically I'd just do the best I can to put bullets in the car jacker's head and body.

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No.

Find a large empty parking lot and test it some time. Get up to forty or so, then hit the brakes. Don't ease on the brakes, stomp on 'em.
 
I usually have my pistol UNDER my right thigh/leg while driving. I always know it's there and it's always concealed and available.
 
Like Doggy Daddy and others said! Always leave an out. Also always have the weapon in position for easy access and use if necessary. Weapon is useless if you can't get to it. People don't get that close to my car without me seeing them anyway, especially on the road.
 
Doggy Daddy - Right On

Some years ago I had occasion to wish I'd left myself some room and a way out of an intersection.

I started making it a point to leave extra room between me and the next guy, look for "escapable" stops.

Most people just ride up on the next guy's bumper. If he stalls or something else parks him there, you're jammed.

Leave room. Look for the outs. It's easier than you might think.
 
In such a situation I would press the small button next to the steering wheel and summon the winged demons of the night to whisk the carjacker off to the nether regions where he would be devoured.

His crowbar, however, would remain behind and I would sell it at a flea market to raise funds for buying more winged demons of the night. Those little rascals are expensive and need constant feeding or else they get testy. Revise the hypothetical so that the carjacker is wearing a Rolex President: I'll take it and you can have the crowbar.
 
Winged demons? Rolexes?

RH, put the bottle down and go to bed now.
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Tut, tut, RNB65. It's not the high road to accuse strangers of drinking to excess even if you don't like what they say.

My car does indeed have a button that releases hypothetical winged demons of the night to protect all within it from hypothetical attacks by hypothetical carjackers. Prove that I don't.

Although I have never had to use that button, I know that it works: word of its presence has spread amongst the hypothetical carjacking community with the result that I have never been attacked by a hypothetical carjacker.

Uh, do you happen to own a Rolex President? If so would you mind putting it on now and move it as close as possible to your computer screen. I have another little button on my computer ....
 
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