CSI: Miami Gun errors

Seems to me that the resident gun expert on the show, Callie, also referred to a gun's magazine as a clip at least a couple of times. You don't habve to be an expert to catch that one, either.

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The goth lab woman in NCIS did the exact same thing on last nights episode. I even caught myself saying "magazine" after every time she said "clip".

Yes, I am a dork.

And while not strictly gun related I hate how the CSI labs have a database for every product ever manufactured and every CSI is an expert on, well, everything. CSI1: "I found this 1921 corn muffin mold at the crime sceen". CSI2: "Ah! corn muffin molds were invented by John Tittzwillow in 1901 and were made of a type of lead alloy created by the Apache Indians. Let's run it through our Corn Muffin Mold database and blow this case wide open!". CSI1: gives CSI2 a dramatic stare and says, "I'm gonna get some coffee, you want some?".

Also hate how CSI lab techs boss the cops around.

one of the scenes depicting the hitman as a hardened killer, as it shows him loading his semi-auto pistol up with what looks like black painted 17 HMR.

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Why wouldn't he? After all, he IS the only professional who's qualified to do that on the show...

Yup. TV. Requires suspension of critical thought and disbelief.

No one ever went broke underestimating the taste [stupidity] of the ammurican publik. (This explains certain liberals & conservatives).

All the CSI shows badly prostitute forensic technology, the laws of physics, logic, juris prudence, and good police work. Yet we find it 'entertaining'?Go figure --

Shooting pistols accurately at 100 yards isnt hard..

The "CSI Effect" is a big giant problem for court folks these days..just ask any prosecuting attorney in a larger city area.

There remains some debate as to weather or not there actually IS a computerized registry.... Seems to be some evidence that there is something(Brady call in background check info being retained unlawfully)..

My mother had one of those corn muffin pans! Am I going to die?BTW I used to love David Caruso, but he is aging badly, hence the need for the shades. He is a graduate of the Clint Eastwood school of acting, just not as good!

wife likes the CSI shows, I cant stand them, and its not just because of all the gun, and other science errors.Its just way to unbelievable, yet tries to be like its realistic. anything that unbelieveable needs to make no bones about reality.Unbelieveable to he extent CSI is should be reserved for sci-fi movies, IMHO

While we're nit-picking-

Wouldn't a 9mm loaded with black powder be SIGNIFICANTLY underpowered?

Anyone care to figure out that math?

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I wondered about that too, because of case volume. Maybe if you used 4Fg, I could see it being possible, might not even need to fill the case then, and use some filler as was mentioned. I have no plans to see if 3Fg or 4Fg will work in a 9mm though, personally.I'll leave that to braver souls than I.

Wait! Ziva?...swimsuit? Did I miss something!?!

oh man...

Mark.

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Callie referred to complete cartridges as "bullets".

Yep, so do I, quite often, including shotgun shells.....drives some people nuts.

ugh...I'm watching a rerun of the original CSI and Warrick just mentioned something about the suspect not having a gun license. :banghead: And they always find the real murderer by tracing his gun through the national gun registry or some such nonsense.

ltlabner said:

And while not strictly gun related I hate how the CSI labs have a database for every product ever manufactured and every CSI is an expert on, well, everything. CSI1: "I found this 1921 corn muffin mold at the crime sceen". CSI2: "Ah! corn muffin molds were invented by John Tittzwillow in 1901 and were made of a type of lead alloy created by the Apache Indians. Let's run it through our Corn Muffin Mold database and blow this case wide open!".

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Alright, we can close the thread. You are the winnar!!!!11 I hurt myself laughing.

Without reading this whole thing, My "favorite" scene was when some bad guy used a suppressed .357 revolver wrapped in newspaper and shooting from the hip to make a head shot at what appeared to be about 250 yards. Amazing.

-Mark.

I don't care. Horatio does something none of the other CSI guys do - KILLS BAD GUYS DEAD! Sometimes even Delko gets to pop a few bad guys too.

one of the scenes depicting the hitman as a hardened killer, as it shows him loading his semi-auto pistol up with what looks like black painted 17 HMR.

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Those were actually depleted uranium bullets with titanium shell casings.

I love how the other FBI guy, the CQB "expert", told Jason Statham "C'mon, John, anyone can use DU bullets and titanium casings!"

Because we all know those cartridges are sooooo common. And that Walther makes a special hard-chromed copy of it's P99 specifically chambered for tthem.

Callie referred to complete cartridges as "bullets".

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She speaks...YUM

and you expect a tV show to be accurate. Wow.

Take your TV out for some range time. Problem solved.

I haven't owned one in ages. I watch DVD's on the computer from time to time but that's it.

I'm still searching for some of those Walker, Texas Ranger 9mm rounds that will cause cars and trucks to go airborned and flip over and sometimes explode.

Oh fr the days of Miami Vice,great music,realistic stories and the best documentation of firearms that I had ever seen on a tv show,anyboby second my opinion?.

Speaking of CSI Miami ... I've now caught about three episodes, rerun on A&E (hey, besides Sportscenter, there's nothing else on at 11:00 p.m. when I get home from work), wherein

-- the blonde finds a fired bullet;
-- runs it through her spiffy ballistics computer;
-- voila, up pops a photo! a name! and an address! -- of the person whose gun fired the bullet!

What's more -- the bullet matches a legally-owned and (according to our CSIs) "registered" (in Florida, right) handgun that presumably has never been used in a crime before.

It's just magic. Of course, on CSI Miami, no murderer ever uses a stolen firearm, either, only one they've bought down at their local gun shop.

Yeah, I long for the days of Miami Vice (Phil Collins' In the Air Tonight blasting, the black Ferrari cruising down the empty boulevard in the middle of the night, Armani-clad cops with .45s, 10mm's, shorty pumps and the little Bodyguard) ...

Wait a sec, though -- Doesn't Calleigh pack a cocked'n'locked stainless Kimber? Maybe it's not all bad.

eveybody keeps saying, "cmon, it's juts a tv show after all." did it occur to anybody saying that, that the basis for the csi shows is that they supposedly are supposed to be accurate? like someone mentioned, medical shows are the same. when ER first came out, the selling point was that it tried to mirror what actually went on in an emergency room. the csi programs were presented as inside looks into what actually goes on with crime scene investigations. the shows are friggin awful. it's hard to even laugh at them. do you think david c. knows just how bad it is and that everybody laughs at him? i wonder if he's seen the one-liner montage on you-tube?

CARLRODD - "... do you think david c. knows just how bad it is and that everybody laughs at him?"

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I kinda doubt if Caruso cares because he is laughing all the way to the bank to deposit his several million $$$$ he makes each year.

Notwithstanding that most actors are extemely ignorant of firearms, do not make the mistake of thinking that they make up those (inaccurate) lines about firearms on various shows.

Those scripts are written by writers who are indeed, very, very anti-guns and very, very ignorant about firearms, ammo, ballistics, and gun laws. (At least, most writers in Hollywood.) Producers are also mainly of the same ideological bent as their writers.

Therefore, what you see on the tube, or on the silver screen, is a result of mainly profound ignorance and bias against honest citizens who own firearms.

That's the way it is in Hollywood.

L.W.

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eveybody keeps saying, "cmon, it's juts a tv show after all." did it occur to anybody saying that, that the basis for the csi shows is that they supposedly are supposed to be accurate?

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Who said these TV shows are "supposed to be accurate??" They're "supposed" to draw a lot of viewers so the networks can sell lots of commecial time for way big bucks and make scads of $$$ for CBS, and Paramount, and the show's producers, actors, technical guys, etc.




And STAR TREK was not a NASA documentary, either.

If they got it right it wouldn't match what they believe. If someone handed them a "real" Glock they would faint. And no the 9mm BP load will not cycle a simi-auto. It will however, "exit" the bbl of a revolver....Maybe!

Dean Speir stands up for Emily Proctor, the actress who portrays Caliegh.

http://www.thegunzone.com/people/emily_procter.html

She's on our side, no matter what idiocy the scriptwriters put through her lips.

Note - the top graphic is Not Safe For Work (boobies!)

"Begs the question......Calleigh or Ziva?.... "

This is a question? I think the answer is obvious, Ziva all the way. At least she can handle weapons well. And yes, you missed something if you didn't catch the swimsuit scene

In all honesty, I've watched quite a few CSI:Miami episodes, but now it's just getting ridiculous. I hope the kill off Horatio and the show ends. NCIS is way, way, way better.