CSI: Miami Gun errors

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This garbage info isn't just restricted to guns - computers, math, and history are frequent burnt offerings on the alter of entertainment.

Anytime I've seen a plot that hinges on anything remotely technical and I have a little experience in that area, 95% of the time it's total bunk.

I'd imagine medical professionals have similar gripes.
 
Every time I flip the channel and see CSI I have to cry. Lab Techs with guns oh my. That show is the television equivalent of a mall ninja.
 
I also think it's interesting that (sorry, this is anecdotal) juries are less likely to convict these days without DNA evidence, or other CSI style proof.

I'll have to find that article...
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Was it the one in the Minneapolis Star Tribune? I recall seeing a similar article awhile back. The gist was that there was a case where a jury acquitted the defendant and among the reasons given was that the prosecution didn't present it's case well enough i.e didn't have fancy CSI type graphic demonstrations etc. The article went on to mention that this was a growing phenomenon in juries. I think we all hope that jurors are smart enough to see through the crap that is network television, but the sad truth is there are plenty of people who believe that stuff, and they WILL end up on juries, and it only takes one moron to hang a jury, for whatever reason. We all have stories of idiots we've seen/heard in gun shops/ranges, well those are at least somewhat gun friendly folks, and they are bad enough. When you think about the viewer base of shows like CSI, that is a lot of people who know nothing about guns other than what they see on TV, which makes the anti-gun propaganda much less harmless as it might seem.
 
Knotthead said:
Unfortunately, I saw some of this episode as well. One thing I liked that hasn't been mentioned is how the round that rolled off the table and discharged when it hit the floor reacted. The bullet shot straight up into the ceiling as if it were fired out of the barrel. This seems a little far fetched. Am I wrong?
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From other posts I glean that it is more likely, when a round goes off outside a barrel, the case goes flying and the bullet doesn't move too much. When you think of the relative weights (masses) of the two, that makes sense.
On the TV show in question, the round landed primer down on the floor, so the case had nowhere to go. I don't know how "straight" the bullet went ... I doubt it went very straight ... but the idea a round would go off like that I found a little too much to take.
I've dropped a number of rounds and not one ever went off. Once I bought a plastic box of 50 .22LR and the sales guy accidentally dropped it on a linoleum floor with no damage or exploding rounds; all the lights remained intact. The rear of the round was highly "corroded," but this wouldn't set off the charge.
Also, blackpowder doesn't destabilize and warm up like "Carrie" said it does. That's B.S.
Then again, it's TV, so maybe calling it "B.S." is redundant.:scrutiny:;)
 
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From other posts I glean that it is more likely, when a round goes off outside a barrel, the case goes flying and the bullet doesn't move too much. When you think of the relative weights (masses) of the two, that makes sense.
On the TV show in question, the round landed primer down on the floor, so the case had nowhere to go. I don't know how "straight" the bullet went ... I doubt it went very straight ... but the idea a round would go off like that I found a little too much to take.
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Without a barrel to confine the hot gases, most of the expanding gas would escape laterally as soon as the projectile broke the seal around the brass. It wouldn't propel the bullet. They portrayed that bullet as being as energetic as if it had been fired from a gun.
 
Unfortunately, I wasted an hour of my life watching the show. All the CSI shows are crap from a technical standpoint, but Miami seems to be the worst. I'v had a few rounds make contact with fires over the years, and all of them have had the brass rupture and fly off while the bullet barely moves. Basic physics. I almost turned the channel, it was so stupid, but Carrie came back into view.

At least Cain got shot at the end of the show. I almost cheered out loud.
 
How about the computerized gun registry in the show? They use it all the time. Doesn't exist.

They find a bullet, then they determine what brand/model gun it came from, then they use the registry/DB to find all owners of that gun, then they narrow it down by going further into records that don't exist.

When I first saw that, I was really confused. I think I even posted here to double check that it didn't exist in real life. Sure enough, I was right.
 
CSI makes me angry. One episode, I was praying to every deity I knew that an ACLU lawyer would come and sue the hell out of the lot of 'em before the end. Or somebody'd let Horatio have it with a 2x4. Don't remember which episode - but H. was threatening some guy for no reason, with no cause whatsoever.

Another episode - think it was the one where the PMC assassinated a few thugs with a friggin' Metalstorm. In Florida. Execution at close range via Metalstorm. Think this episode also featured the laptop whose hard-drive was being erased wirelessly as CSI folk watched. CSI whiz-kids couldn't turn the laptop over and pull the battery, couldn't mash the power switch... and they were in their lab. These people can find somebody's gender from traces of spittle in under an hour, and they can't turn off a laptop?
Metalstorm episode was way, way, way over the top.
 
recovering finger prints from expended shell casings?

One thing that has always made me wonder was the finger print thing. I would assume that a fingerprint left on the side of cartridge prior to firing in a semi-auto would be destroyed during the loading, firing, and ejection cycle. Am I right or are the TV CSI's right?
 
My favorite CSI moments are when the CSI's actually go in on the "bust"...and are usually leading the charge...or when they get a call, and "H" is the first on the scene! In real life, how many times does the CSI actually get on scene before the actual LEO's get on scene? For that case, why do they even get on scene when there is no CRIME SCENE? Always thought it was / is funny!
 
It's interesting how all violent crimes in Miami happen at swimsuit model conventions.

My wife says CSI Miami is the funniest comedy show on television. Remember the episode about the woman who was secretly an identical triplet and traded places with her sisters in her marriage, and they murdered "her" husband, but it was actually his secret body double? :scrutiny:

Next week: CSI Miami solves a murder perpetrated by invaders from the planet Zork, but only after ruling out circus clowns, a bartender, and Don Imus.
 
I secretly hope horatio has went hooters up and is leaving the show, but I know that's not true and I don't think caruso would be dumb enough to leave another tv show on his own accord.
 
saw an episode a few seasons back where a guy fires a semi auto... the muzzle blast looks real, the gun starts to cycle... and out comes a fully intact cartridge.... i still cant figure out how that one happened
 
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