close range coyotes with 9mm handgun?

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I see a coyote it will be shot Lost family cat last month to one . No more live and let live
Yes years ago I was also "live and let live" until one night two Coyotes backed my three dogs up to the house trying to get the smallest dog. The Coyotes weren't even afraid of me when they first seen me. Too bad I went outside without a gun.
They have and still are killing pets and small livestock around here.
Shoot on sight.


The Governor used a LCP to kill the Coyote that was trying to get his little dog.
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there was a shootout at a meth lab around here about 6 months ago, and an innocent bystander was hit by a 9mm in the face from about 40yds away

it hit him right between his upper lip and nose, and just lodged there and didnt really penetrate at all

had it removed and he is doin just fine

or so i was told by a supposed witness...whatever thats worth

like another poster said...if 9mm kills people, its obviously gonna be enough to kill a yote
 
Not to totally jump track here, but I was ready to buy one of those LCP's back when they were on long waiting lists everywhere. I never heard back from 'em and I kinda' lost interest after hearing about and seeing pics of the ejector issues or metal near ejector or something.

Did they get all that ironed out, I assume, and they're satisfactorily reliable to you?


P.S. I saw a guy on youtube dump a mag as fast as he could at a good 5 yards and, unless they used a stand-in target, I was amazed at how tight the pattern was.
 
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Having been stalked by a pack of coyotes, you can count me as one who would shoot them, they are predators, they have on more than a few occasions lost their fear of humans, even remember a story of some dragging a 2yo out of her yard in So. Cal.

They never strike from the front, there were 3 of us in the group, the biggest weapons we had was a machete and some rocks we picked, up, they got in close, move quickly, blend in with dry grass,

My story, late summer in central Oregon, myself and friends were running in the woods, we stopped a large meadow where several of our trails converged, we heard the coyotes as we got ready to leave and go home, bit of noise to keep us occupied in front, we waited for the ones to our back to get close, maybe 30 feet, then my buddies threw the rock, got one, and did a bluff charge, was a rather unpleasant moment when I realized that I was standing there by myself staring at the guy in front, knowing I had flankers. We were not deep in some uncharted woods, rather we were on the edge of Silver Falls state park, a rather well used park with lots and lots of visitors.

BTW, they are rather light weight dogs, you give up your arm, and either brake their necks, or reach down their throat and tear it out, you will be hit low (legs) from behind, and when you turn, that is when the pack will attack,

If a bunch show up infront and make noise, letting know they are there, they are trying to drive you off. or keep from noticing the rest of the pack, who are probably trying to flank and circle, you need to leave, and be prepared to fight your way out.

And, much like feral dogs, no body will miss afew,
 
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Sure enough pasture pups will do harm. Actually have stories of coyotes eating a calf while it was being born from its mother. Luckily we have got the numbers down some in the past few years, but I can remeber them by the droves. Having livestock around and growing up on a ranch we have ALWAYS shot coyotes on sight. Ask a local cattle dairy what they think about yotes. They breed with dogs and the off spring is nasty like a coyote but they aren't afraid of humans we call'em coy dogs.
 
Not to totally jump track here, but I was ready to buy one of those LCP's back when they were on long waiting lists everywhere. I never heard back from 'em and I kinda' lost interest after hearing about and seeing pics of the ejector issues or metal near ejector or something.

Did they get all that ironed out, I assume, and they're satisfactorily reliable to you?


P.S. I saw a guy on youtube dump a mag as fast as he could at a good 5 yards and, unless they used a stand-in target, I was amazed at how tight the pattern was.
All of the LCP's early problems have been addressed. They work great now, mine is a slick little pistol. With Buffalo bore 100gr hard cast flat nose lead +P ammo i suspect it would be highly effective against mountain lions, let alone Coyotes. Probably .380 anything would work well on coyotes, they're just medium sized dogs.
 
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Never run in the woods...makes you look like prey.

The coyote population is increasing locally...we need more varminters.
 
Um, thanks, the fact that we were 3 kids, maybe 60-70lbs soaking wet, probably didn't help much either. at the time we were siting and shooting the breeze, hence we noticed them, seem the birdies don't like yotes either.
 
Here in Texas, the Coyote is looked upon as a "shoot on site" target, for all the reasons listed above, and many more. That being said, they also help control the mouse/rat population. They kill and eat snakes, bad and good. They are a predator and have no distinction as to what their prey is. Like many other predators in the world, they also help control the "weak" in the animal kingdom. Though the attack can be pretty brutal, they do serve a purpose. I personally shoot them on sight when I see them in my particular area. I do not go out and hunt them, but I have accompanied those who do. They have got a real challange on their hands. The Coyote has all the senses that the whitetail deer has and can see movement from a very long distance. It does'nt take much to send them rocketing away.
I personally had a very unnerving experience with Coyotes, three of them to be exact while bowhunting several years ago. I am certainly glad the the Texas CHL allows for the carry of a concealed firearm during Bow Hunting Season, otherwise it is illegal. I was blood tracking a large matriarch doe I had arrowed about 40 minutes earlier. I came around the corner of the sendero and there were the Coyotes, that had also found the blood trail and were doing the same. They were about 20yards ahead of me and had not yet seen me. Unfortunately I stepped on a small oak limb, it snapped and they turned and confronted me. The one in the middle growled and showed his teeth. I shot him in the head a 180gr. JHP from my Ruger GP-100, that I had just drawn from concealment. I also shot one other that was stupid or hungry enough to stay around. The third was out of guaranteed kill range before I could get a bead on him. I found the doe and field dressed her, drug her about 100 yards from the gutpile and hung her high in a tree until I could return with the 4 wheeler. Upon that return I noticed the gutpile was gone and saw many bloody paw prints of what looked like dog paws......
 
Coyotes, wild dogs, feral house cats, pit vipers...Etc. Etc. Bang, Bang, bang, bang!!!
 
My dog and I had 2 coyotes cross the road in front of us in a snow storm. On the way back, the same 2 had doubled back, traveled through a wooded area and crossed the road in front of us again. I will never trust them under any circumstances. The local vet says they carry "canine distemper", among other things. The post by valorius is the icing on the cake for me. I keep a 20" 870 loaded with #4 handy, and a .38 in the pocket when dog walking. These things howl at the sirens from Police cars.
 
i'll try to cover everyone here:

1. i posted in other sections ( revolver, autoloader, hunting, etc) wanted to get the most input possible. i tend to read the revolver forum alot and not many other ones. figured others may do the same with other forums.

2. i am a farmer ( goats,sheep, horses, chickens, rabbits, cattle, pigs, other foul) in the last 3 weeks we have lost 17 chickens/ducks, 3 sheep.

3. our dogs have been going nuts about 3 in the morning for the last month, so i put in a motion light and waited. sure enough 3:30 light came on and 2 coyotes in our driveway and 1 next to our chicken coop. i have also had them in our yard during the day.
last night while bailing hay i came across 4 of them.

4. i dont go out looking for them , nor do i bait them. if they dont pose a problem at my house i would let them be. the reason for the posts is i dont want to injure/wound i am a believer in a clean kill. if i hit it dies if i miss it walks,no in between.

5. i only hunt when necessary. i have dozens of woodchucks in my fields, weasels, squirrels,other varmints. that have lived there as long as i have. never shot 1, because they are not a problem for me. the only thing i do hunt every year is deer. but im a butcher so all i waste is the white bones. ( and my dogs get them, so no waste.)

hope this paints a better picture of who i am and why i posted the thread in the first place.

and i am a proud peta member ( people eat tasty animals)
 
I've never had a problem with coyotes but I am prepared for one. I hear plenty of packs up here in Montana in the woods yelping towards night usually. Wolves are a more serious threat.. I'm not saying coyotes arent a threat though.
 
I live on 80 acres just two miles from Andover, KS, and I have a 10 yr. old Border Collie who has been attacked and dragged my coyotes 3 effing times in the last 4 years. They've also attacked our three horses. The pack around here about about half and half coyotes and coy dogs. Everyone i knows shoots them on sight. Im sorry that Rotting was offended by our dislike of dangerous and active predators that cause no end of irritation and livestock loss. If I didn't know better I'd assume he lives in some posh California suburb admiring his extensive collection of California-legal Nerf guns.
 
Here is a much, much better question: Why the hell would you want to shoot a coyote? Have you or anyone that you know or anyone that THEY know ever been attacked or put into an EVEN POTENTIALLY dangerous situation by a coyote? Do you eat coyote?

I would give you 100:1 odds that the answer to those questions is "no."
For a similar reason as shooting feral hogs or prairie dogs or ...? They're pests. They carry disease, kill livestock, apparently attack humans ....

Are you averse to swatting flies and mosquitoes as well?

BTW, a 9mm should do just fine but you might want to consider a nice, lightweight .223 so you can hit them at greater distances. :D
 
To expand on the LCP question, I bought one of the Coyote Specials a little while back and it is the most reliable .380 I own - zero malfunctions in 200 rounds. (but I shoot the Sig P238 and DB380 better)

As has been said, the Gov. here used a LCP .380 to shoot a coyote, and as I understand it killed it with a single shot - although it did crawl off a bit before dying if I recall correctly. 9mm is plenty if your shot ison target.
 
We don't have many coyotes round my parts, but we have plenty of urban predators here. When i walk the miles and miles of local nature trails in my city with a lovely female companion, my LCP is our constant companion. Makes for the perfect light trail gun IMO. With the right rounds (namely buffalo bore 100gr+P hard cast flat nose lead) and reasonable shot placement a .380 will easily kill anything mountain lion sized or smaller.

I was just reading a story not too long ago of a city dwelling woman that stopped a pit bull attack with a .380 pistol. Shot it 3 times IIRC. I seem to remember the story saying she had an LCP as well, but i'm not sure about that. A big city pitbull is at least as dangerous as a coyote. Probably as dangerous as a mountain lion, for that matter. And more ruggedly built than either.
 
Around here we have a huge number of them. I can hear them yipping, yelping and howling almost every night. It really creeps me when I'm awakened by them in the wee hours. In the cooler months when the leaves are off the trees we watch them chase deer up and down the fairway that is in my back yard. Folks are constantly putting up signs for lost cats. I'd sadly hate to tell them that their cat is most likely scat.

When they are most active I carry a pocket pistol when I take my dog Max out for his evening leak. I carry a Beretta 418 which is .25 ACP. I'm confident that I could do enough damage with it.

I'm sure that bobcats are a risk also, but I've only seen one of them. There is also the occasional black bear, but that is now a rarity as the burbs have swallowed the country.
 
I'm no expert on coyotes, although we have them here in Ohio now, but they are very shy. I have hunted lots of groundhogs with the 9mm, and just about any of the high performance hollow points do well. I would guess that a 90-125 gr JHP at the best velocitiy you get from each will do well. I started shooting groundhogs with the then-new Super Vel 90gr JHP, and bullets have only gotten better since the 1970's. I'd probably use a handload with a Speer Gold Dot or Hornady XTP with a 115gr on a coyote, if I was going out armed just for that. I usually have a 124-127gr +P load for self defense in my 9's, though, and I'm sure a coyote would respond well to those, too. You just might get more tissue damage with such a light and small animal like a coyote with the higher velocity of the 115grainer.
 
when im in my fields mowing grass i often have coyotes pop out of the tall grass at under 25 yards away. will a hit with a 9mm do anything to a coyote at that range? handgun is a ruger p95 3.5 barrel. thanks
Who cares?
I'm pretty much in the same boat that you are. For better than 20 years I've seen those miserable dogs tear up deer, turkeys, rabbits, pheasants and just about anything else that they come across on my place. I've shot them with pistols, shotguns, rifles, arrows-anything that I've got at the time, whether I'm mowing, hunting, fencing-whatever I'm doing. I sort of wondered about if a 380, 22, 40 etc. was enough, and then it dawned on me that just putting the lead on them was plenty. Let their buddies have an easy meal that night-who cares? Once the damn thing starts bleeding it's done.
The clown that's running his mouth about "live and let live" with these mongrels hasn't spent much time watching them at work.
Only good coyote's a dead one. End of story.
 
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Has anyone run those hard cast flat nose .380 rounds in their LCP? That would definitely give it a Plus rating in my book with that option. Especially for being such a small lightweight pistol.
 
If you can hit them (they will be a small target, appearing quickly and moving away from you fast), the 9mm should be quite lethal on these and other animals of similar size.
 
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