If your state passed new terrible gun laws, would you move or stay and fight?

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Johnny Dollar said:
No ,Schmoe,my main residence is in Coral Gables. My 2 condos are in Miami Beach and Key Biscayne. In 2007, my next door neighbor sold his house for $750,000. I am a RE Agent and know this market for 50 years. You are a Schmoe! Capiche? :D

And also you are not ACP! :rolleyes: Now,vamos! ;)
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I used to live on Key Biscayne. Key Colony.

You've been a RE agent for 50 years and your house lost 50%? Who's the Schmoe now?
 
You can't fight when you have the demographics against you. That is the problem with CA and one, not the only, but one of the reasons I am looking to say goodbye to that state hopefully for ever.
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You can fight. You just are not apt to get quick results and it will be a tough fight.

As for looking to say goodbye, you have been in the process of leaving the state since 2011, LOL. You have gone from being in the process of leaving to just considering the notion. Usually, one would go from considering to doing, not the other way around. Sounds like you will continue to be there for quite some time. http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=451025&highlight=california+home&page=2

When the Dems control all of the major statewide seats, what is there that you can fight with?
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How about fighting to get them replaced?
 
I've moved a number of times to get away from increased gun control and poor attitudes from people who don't understand the hunting/trapping lifestyle. If things go the wrong way here, the only remaining option for me would be Alaska... but I suspect any major change here would be the result of a federal ban, and so would make moving irrelevant.
 
I am blessed to live in a Pro-Gun, Pro-Bible, Southern, Conservative Red State. Having said that - We just helped $$$ our son move from New Yorkistan. One can either choose to live life or exist.
 
Where ya gonna go? Any state you move to is liable to be the next one to pass the same laws. And what about jobs? And a million other things?

I've heard a lot of people talking about bolting out of Colorado if these BS bills become laws, but I'm not moving. Go? Go where? And do what? Starve under a bridge 'cause there's no jobs? And people in other states don't want a mass exodus of immigrants fleeing other states moving in, that's how our state got in this mess to begin with.
 
We will continue to fight as long as we are here. We bought our retirement/vacation home in beautiful WV about a year and a half ago, and we hope to be there full time fairly soon. We keep fighting while here for our kids, grandkids, and friends.
 
They should also probably keep track of how much and when they either sold or disposed of a weapon..
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Why? If there is no registration, then there is no paperwork trail. I have sold guns at garage sales, bought them at the same - cash and a smile and see ya around

The sad story,Joe,is that anyone in South Florida who bought their home before 2006 saw it plummet 50% or more in value. The exceptions being a small fraction of multi million dollar properties. Only the Las Vegas area had such a disastrous decline as ours in the entire U.S.
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Reno and Carson got hit as bad, if not worse.

As to South Beach, between the NY hedge fund guys, the Russians and the Brazilians, real estate is growing faster than anywhere else
 
I would do everything in my power to move. It may not be immediate but eventually I'd get to a free state.

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As a 30 year resident of NY I have watched the gradual decrease of personal freedom with each passing year. This past November the NY Senate went "D" and I knew that the thumb was out of the dam, and the dam burst.
For 30 years I have watched people vote with their feet and move from states that didn't reflect their philosophy to states that did. Because of this we have more and more states that are more red or more blue by wider margins. (Blue states get bluer and red states get redder.) I don't see that trend reversing itself. Soon I too will vote with my feet and go looking for freedom. The only problem is that when people in other states hear I am from NY they close the door! :(

No one wants to contaminate their culture with folks from NY. Please do not tar all NYer's with the same feather.

BD
 
Texas and Oklahoma will be the last to fall. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but if ever...
 
HorseSoldier said:
I moved to Alaska. While the official state motto is "North to the future" or some such drivel, more unofficially you'll hear (especially among those who've been here a while) that "Alaska is what America was." Guns are still unremarkable, everyday tools and necessities here . If they manage pass onerous and ridiculous gun laws here in Alaska, by the time we get to that point there will be nowhere left to go (or, to borrow more eloquenty from Tacitus, ". . . there are no tribes beyond us, nothing indeed but waves and rocks, and the yet more terrible Romans, from whose oppression escape is vainly sought by obedience and submission.")

That said, if I needed to relocate, it would be done with an eye to gun laws. My wife was considering a post-doctoral fellowship in Denver within the last couple months, but recent events in Colorado are such that we won't be living there, even for a couple years, unless the gun control stuff they're pushing falls by the wayside.
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My wife and I originally planned on staying in Colorado, but we moved to CA to be close to my son while he was in school. Our daughter moved from Colorado during that time and is up in Idaho now.

Providentially, Idaho is a much better fit than Colorado the way that they are going rapidly to the left. Sad, Colorado was once a great place for freedom but is no longer. Hate to say it, but that is the evil awaiting all of our western state one at a time.

Time to hold the course my friends.

P.S. my formative years were at the top of O'Malley Road. I Love the Anchorage area but I don't miss the mosquitoes at all.:evil:
 
Leave until all the parasites and leeches cause the state to implode. Then rebuild it with the kind of people who know how to make it work right again.
 
True, Alaska is the last best place. And there's pretty much zero chance of the legislature turning on us. If they do I actually know a number of those guys and can yell at them. In a functional democracy you can actually call up your reps and talk to them. Radical idea I know!

The fear here is federal law. And with the feds owning so much of the land their hand is always heavy. Our population is also small and dependent on the very infrastructure the feds support. So things would get really messy if troopers start tryin to arrest FBI agents.
 
I figure that it's likely that there would have been quite a few "Get out of Dodge!" clues about a state's decline in freedom, long before any serious we-hate-guns laws were passed. I'd have already been gone.
 
My wife and I have good careers right where we are. It would be easy for me to find another job in my field but not so much for her. I've been hoping she could get a transfer to a southern state but for now I'll stay and fight. I think a lot of nonsense is going to get passed in Illinois if we don't stand up and be heard. It could still go through but then anyone with an I for incumbent by their name during the next election better plan on a different career.


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stay/move

If I'm lucky,I will be able to hide my own easter eggs,amd meet new friends w/o leaving the house;by the time Oregon gets as bad. No kids,just horses and dogs;and I'm not sure if I'll leave any firearms to my nephews ak wannabe leos.
 
Art Eatman said:
I figure that it's likely that there would have been quite a few "Get out of Dodge!" clues about a state's decline in freedom, long before any serious we-hate-guns laws were passed. I'd have already been gone.
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Same here. I moved from one state to another five times in the last five years. Nothing keeping me here that I couldn't find elsewhere if I decided to move again tomorrow.

I want to teach my kids about shooting and hunting, not about hating their state/federal representative and fearing/planning to overthrow their democratically elected country
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Teach your kids American History, logic, and pray for their wisdom; and let them decide for themselves whether fighting for their freedom and liberty is the same as hating their country. Or just teach them the truth yourself. Hint: Not even close.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

We're much closer to tyranny than liberty, according to ol' Jeffy.
 
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The good thing about bordering an even redder state is being able to hop over to SC if anything goes down. As much as NE liberal transplants have ruined this state I don't think (more) gun control is currently possible. Quite a few states have to fall before this one does.
 
I'm more concerned with the probability of winter returning each year to Michigan, than I am of unreasonable gun laws returning to Michigan. Michigan is trending the opposite direction: reversing senseless, restricting laws. Winter on the other hand, just keeps returning.

Geno
 
Geno said:
I'm more concerned with the probability of winter returning each year to Michigan, than I am of unreasonable gun laws returning to Michigan. Michigan is trending the opposite direction: reversing senseless, restricting laws. Winter on the other hand, just keeps returning.

Geno
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Its sad but true and the older one gets the tougher it is to shovel that snow. Unfortunately the the need to reduce the budget without reducing the size of government, the doubling of the executive branches wages, the desire to shift taxes away from business and on to Ralph Retiree has moved Michigan up the list of least retiree friendly states. Since tax increases are bad we are being inundated with "user fees".

I took an early retirement three years ago and My wife has 5 1/2 years before she will be taking hers. I have already been informed that we will be leaving Michigan and all of its snow. Well she is leaving because of the snow, I am leaving because our governor would rather have "Highly educated immigrants" living here than retirees.

Michigan is a beautiful except for that 40+ inches of snow each winter!!!!
 
AlbertH said:
Its sad but true and the older one gets the tougher it is to shovel that snow. Unfortunately the the need to reduce the budget without reducing the size of government, the doubling of the executive branches wages, the desire to shift taxes away from business and on to Ralph Retiree has moved Michigan up the list of least retiree friendly states. Since tax increases are bad we are being inundated with "user fees".

I took an early retirement three years ago and My wife has 5 1/2 years before she will be taking hers. I have already been informed that we will be leaving Michigan and all of its snow. Well she is leaving because of the snow, I am leaving because our governor would rather have "Highly educated immigrants" living here than retirees.

Michigan is a beautiful except for that 40+ inches of snow each winter!!!!
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After living in the desert of CA for the last 20 years, I welcome the winter snows of Idaho. Sadly, it looks like winter is almost over up here already. The snow is melted and the sun is coming out. Now it is time to go back to CA for a couple of months to take care of some issues and get the house ready to sell. Shucks, I won't miss that hot desert sun one little bit. Nor will I miss the politics of CA one little bit either.
 
If there`s anybody here that wants to boycott New York State because of the SAFE act, Please:

E mail Senator Betty Little and tell her about it. WHY? Betty Little is the chair of the Senate Cultural Affairs and TOURISM,Parks&Recreation Committee.

She is pro 2A and your correspondence may provide anmmunition to help defeat Cuomo & his outrageous SAFE Act.
E mail : [email protected]

or write to Sen. Betty Little
310 Legislative Office Bldg
Albany,NY 1227

Thank you.
 
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