Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jlbraun, Mar 2, 2013.
Johnny, if it gets to that point in Florida, I don't think there will be any state left to move to!
You can't fight when you have the demographics against you. That is the problem with CA and one, not the only, but one of the reasons I am looking to say goodbye to that state hopefully for ever.
When the Dems control all of the major statewide seats, what is there that you can fight with? So, fight or run, I am running to Idaho where I can hold out as long as possible.
me and mine? we stand and fight.
Apparently gun laws are causing some folks to not move to NJ and causing others to move out. See the video listed below at about the 1 minute point into the little over 2 minute clip. Although this fellow is not pro GUN, he sees the result in vacant positions.
Me too. Besides, I don't know how many of us are mobile enough to pull a Tom Joad and pack up the family wagon and move on to the Promised Land of Gun Rights---wherever that is---when we don't like the law. What about those of us with established careers and practices, or businesses, or family networks? I've heard tell of folks moving to states with warmer climates, or lower tax rates, or to be closer to family---but higher magazine capacities or lower permit fees? I doubt it.
For those of us who would leave, I suggest you live in a travel trailer or motor home, so when the gun laws in that state are no longer to your liking you can move on once again. After all, as we New Yorkers know all too well, all it takes is a handful of signatures by anonymous men and woman in remote chambers, to change things. And you just can't keep on movin' down the road.
A few days ago I joined 7,000 other peaceful, law-abiding citizens in Albany, none of whom are inclined to move, to tell Cuomo and his henchmen what we think of their newly and hastily-adopted legislation. We're all outraged, but not one is willing to pack up and leave.
About 5 years until retirement. I would stay. Kid needs to leave nest, one left.
But I fight first and now. I have no quit in me.
I won't comply with unconstitutional bills ("laws"). This non-compliance may ultimately be most disruptive to my life, but I don't care. I will stay and fight.
IMO, any place that advances an anti-2A legislation will have 3 groups of gun owners.
1. Those that comply
2. Those that don't comply
3. Those that have 2 caches of weapons
A. Compliant cache
B. Non-compliant cache
I'm still deciding which category I will fall into.
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I was disappointed to see The Free State Project, a movement that tried to recruit like-minded people to move to New Hampshire, to have only a few (9,000?) thousand people actually sign up, whether they moved or not. Theoretically, it seemed a great idea. Now, because of property values in adjoining states, people from CT, MA, etc. are moving to NH, and swamping the Free State newcomers who actually respect their long-held NH values. Sadly, this has happened in CA (50 years ago), WA, OR, now maybe even Montana.
I make a point of sending the NRA, NRA-ILA, SAF, and others more money every year. I hope we can make a dent. Aside from this blight on our rights that began with post-9/11 overreactions and is now running with uninformed public opinion regarding school masssacres, we gun rights folks have been doing very well. Comparing today (49 states with some sort of CC and no AWB) with 1983, we're in much better shape than we were.
The only stupid thing PA has done as a result of the panic is our AG refusing PA residential use of FL permits. PA is pretty good on gun laws and my local demographic is overwhelmingly pro-freedom, but being so close to the coast surrounded by MD, NJ and NY worries me. I love PA but have always wanted to move to a warmer state. Bad legislation would likely be another nail in the coffin for me personally. Once I got to a warmer state I'd dig in and fight it out if it happened there.
I have relocated a number of times in my life. What is once more to me?
As soon as I found suitable work out of state, I would be gone.
I can certainly appreciate how circumstances trump ideology. I live near the Mass border and I'm only 80 miles from VT/NH. I don't have a full-time job at the moment, so bailing on CT would be relatively easy. Yes, a 90 minute commute would kind of blow, but it still seems preferable. If I lived further south and had a good full-time job, I would not relocate.
Then, If CT went the way of NY, then I'd buy a 1911, but since all my standard capacity magazines just fell into a lake, I'll have nothing to "turn in."
I'm planning to leave Illinois anyway, but it may be a few years away. If they pass laws to make me a criminal, I'd probably just move my contraband out of state until I can join it. I live on a border so it's not completely disruptive, just the hassle of selling & buying a house.
When upright gun owners abandon an area, guess which way the crime rate goes?
(no I don't have stats on that)
When I move,it's going to be because I am sick and tired of snow. I have been a Michigander all my life. I bought my first Shotgun in 1970, even back then the serial number and my identification was recorded, bought my first hunting rifle in 1972 same thing happened. I worked construction until I took an early retirement a couple years ago. Back in the mid 80's I ran a job at the Federal Court House in Detroit, needed FBI Security Clearance so they got my finger prints for the first time way back then. Applied for and got my CPL last summer, The FBI got my fingerprints again and gave me a clean bill of health. My CPL also allows me to walk into a store, pick out a gun, lay down my plastic/cash, fill out some paperwork and walk out with my new purchase.
YES all those weapons are REGISTERED in my name, and because I am a RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, I will assume the responsibilty that goes with gun ownership. If one is stolen, I will immediately inform the police so I am no longer liable should someone use that weapon to commit a crime. Should I ever sell one of my weapons, it will be through an FFL Licensed Gun Dealer, I will just add the transfer fee to the price of the weapon if the buyer chooses not to.. If that buyer wants me to sell that weapon under the table so they can avoid its registration, then THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS and I will not sell to them.
It's easy to say that I would move but actually moving is hard.
Besides, if this happened I'm not sure where I could go.
If you move, realize that many states have NO registration
I'm fighting with my time and money. When I retire and move it will ONLY be to a gun friendly state.
That is the main reason I only buy weapons that I plan on keeping and that I keep the serial numbers and type of weapon in a safe place. One thing that every responsible gun owner should do, just in case you need to CYA. They should also probably keep track of how much and when they either sold or disposed of a weapon..
I have only one mistaken purchase so far and that was a S&W Bodyguard 380. My wife thought she would like it so we bought it, what a mistake. Now if they offered a trigger kit for the pistol it could be pretty nice but that horrendous long pull that isn't very smooth takes away from what could be a nice weapon. It is amazing how S&W can have some reasonably priced double action pistols with decent triggers but not the 380. It is one pistol that I would recommend that you try before you buy.
I have considered trading it if the price is right but will probably keep it cause it makes a perfect kitchen drawer/bathroom drawer weapon.
Call S&W and see if they will redo the trigger....OR find a good smith who can tune it up somewhat
I moved to Alaska. While the official state motto is "North to the future" or some such drivel, more unofficially you'll hear (especially among those who've been here a while) that "Alaska is what America was." Guns are still unremarkable, everyday tools and necessities here . If they manage pass onerous and ridiculous gun laws here in Alaska, by the time we get to that point there will be nowhere left to go (or, to borrow more eloquenty from Tacitus, ". . . there are no tribes beyond us, nothing indeed but waves and rocks, and the yet more terrible Romans, from whose oppression escape is vainly sought by obedience and submission.")
That said, if I needed to relocate, it would be done with an eye to gun laws. My wife was considering a post-doctoral fellowship in Denver within the last couple months, but recent events in Colorado are such that we won't be living there, even for a couple years, unless the gun control stuff they're pushing falls by the wayside.
Depends on the change. It would have to be very serious.
I live where I grew up, where my wife grew up, where my mother lives 25 minutes away and my sisters and brothers 90 minutes away. My house has doubled its value in 10 years, my kids are in a great school system, my town is safe, and I have a wide, wide, wide variety of handguns, rifles and shotguns to choose from even with the possibility of 10-round magazine limits and banning the sale of new ARs (existing ones grandfathered).
All in all, no, I wouldn't move.
Maybe it's me getting older. I'm moving farther away every day from "tactical" stuff and more toward timeless "classics" and "fun" guns (mostly 22s).
I want to teach my kids about shooting and hunting, not about hating their state/federal representative and fearing/planning to overthrow their democratically elected country (the best country on the Earth -- spend some time overseas then come back, you'll know what I mean.)
I'm the same way. The older I get the more I favor the timeless classics.
^---Hint; Your house was probably never really worth 4 times the median home price. Miami Beach? I hope you don't mean "condo". Glut of those down there with stupid fee's.
move / fight
I got rid of the Bushmaster hoping that they would be happy,[I refused to register and sold out of state]and the dems of **** can do whatever they want.Moonbeam,Thompson,the ones some of my friends voted for saying they would be practical threw us under the bus.
I plan on Retireing at 55 in sept,and moving out of state,actually Oregon;and I will not vote for or support any dumb **** movement in that state. I found an area where my new friends will have Elk Rifles,and Logging is still in progress.
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