22 LR Solution - RAISE PRICES THROUGH THE ROOF

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If the manufacturers are running full tilt producing 22 shells, and we're buying every last bit of it, there must be a hell of a lot of ammo sitting around in all our basements. It'll be fun to see how this all works out in time.
 
If manufacturing isn't increasing to match the new shooters with new guns now trying to buy ammo, and can't keep up with the former coupla-boxes-on-hand types that are now looking to keep more on hand, then I don't think the ammo supply for high-demand calibers is going to catch up for a long time.

Well the Cabelas I visited last weekend was very well stocked with almost all calibers of centerfire ammunition with center aisle displays of nothing but 5.56 / 223 and 7.62 x 39 both in individual 20 round boxes and bulk packs in ammo cans. Maybe I am being premature as considering this an end to the nationwide shortage.

And remember, price controls distort supply and demand even when they are implemented voluntarily across an industry, rather than by government fiat. An undistorted market would have corrected the shortages a lot quicker, albeit at the cost of higher prices in the short run. Americans would rather have shortages, though, so shortages we have.

The market is being distorted by very restrictive gun laws passed this year in several states and a President that continues to pledge his support for nationwide gun bans along with a carefully coordinated anti-gun campaign by the TV and Print media.

As for shortages it could well be that the shortages are simply one way Americans are expressing their distrust in Government and their belief that the Government is lying to us about it’s real intentions. I read a recent poll that Congress only has a 9% approval rating. I think most Americans would like to have Government that they can trust and this a hugh indicator of the level of distrust by gun owners.
 
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There has been no ban, or talk about a ban, or any direct restriction on production of 22 Long Rifle ammunition.

And yeah, I do think there are a number of fools paying 19.99% APR for a linen closet full of Federal Bulk Packs as they think "S will HTF" any day now and/or need it for zombie/alien defense (or maybe barter).
 
I think folks are currently buying all they can because they believe it may not be available at all someday. Those are the ones who usually buy as they need rather than stockpiling all along. Once they've stockpiled at today's crazy prices they'll stop buying. Once that happens the shortage is over and there will be a substantial surplus. I hope...
 
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Of course, it helps if you had the foresight to stock up while prices were low.

It didn't help that I lost 25K rounds just of 22lr in the 2011 fires and the panicking doofi have severely hampered my restocking plan.
 
My Solution to the 22LR ammo shortage

I am so frustrated with this situation that I have been seriously considering the following.
I have one 22LR revolver and one 22LR semi auto rifle
I sell/trade them both on a bolt action .223 that I can reload for and say goodbye permanently to the 22LR caliber.
Drastic, probably. But I am fed up with Walmart 22 shopping, and $7.00/50 round prices at the range for 22 ammo. JMTCW. Thanks for listening
 
I am so frustrated with this situation that I have been seriously considering the following.
I have one 22LR revolver and one 22LR semi auto rifle
I sell/trade them both on a bolt action .223 that I can reload for and say goodbye permanently to the 22LR caliber.
Drastic, probably. But I am fed up with Walmart 22 shopping, and $7.00/50 round prices at the range for 22 ammo. JMTCW. Thanks for listening
To Tom Jones (re: .22 ammo) : "It's not unusual .....to see me cryyyyyy !!!!"
 
The premise suggested in the original thread would work initially. Just think, you wouldn't blame the gunshops that want to charge $50 for a $20 bulk pack anymore that they often purchased at Walmart. You see, the ones that do this and I know about it have lost all of my business. I might do a transfer through them, but not buying much of anything... everything will come to me UPS and the heck with them. That good for business?

You see, buying and shooting 22 rimfire ammunition is voluntary. Many would simply stop using the 22 rimfire drug. The guns would gather dust and few new ones would be purchased. Good for business?

If everyone raised prices, then the ammunition producers would probably see their sales drop dramatically and they would cut workers and production as a result of it. Then you are likely to have the same problem, just at even higher prices. Is this good for business?
 
Another ammo price/supply/demand thread... Yay! Not.

I've tired of seeing flippers sell 22lr bricks for $100, and empty sporting goods shelves. Its been 12months and the relief is coming slow (if ever).

Bottom line is, we can't control pricing in general, whether its private sellers or big box stores. You cannot force Walmart to raise a $25 brick(550rds) to $100 because that is not their policy and sales principle. You cannot force scaplers/flippers to stop buying up every box of ammo that hits the shelves.

I don't have a problem with normal pricing (cheap) of 22lr. It allows those of us not made of money to buy a brick or 2 of ammo once a week. Sure its not an emergency/necessity to buy ammo, but it is nice to be able to replenish what we shoot and build a small stockpile for the future. Raising it 4x the normal price would make it almost impossible for those with tight budgets to buy them. Who's to say that the scalpers/flippers won't then sell it for 8x the cost anyway???

I think what most of us can do as a whole to help alleviate the shortage is to calm down on buying up ammo and don't buy from scalpers/flippers to discourage those doing that.

Or not...
 
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I don't understand why folks don't switch to a beefy .22 caliber pellet gun during times like this. Sure, you can't shoot quite as far and the pellets don't hit quite as hard but for casual plinking and small varmint control they do fine. Don't want to shoot pellets or pay high prices? Then build up your reserves when ammo is plentiful and cheap.

BTW, all this talk of ammo shortages makes me want to buy a .357 air rifle and a few thousand rounds of pellets.
 
High .22 Prices

Another ammo price/supply/demand thread... Yay! Not.

I've tired of seeing flippers sell 22lr bricks for $100, and empty sporting goods shelves. Its been 12months and the relief is coming slow (if ever).

Bottom line is, we can't control pricing in general, whether its private sellers or big box stores. You cannot force Walmart to raise a $25 brick(550rds) to $100 because that is not their policy and sales principle. You cannot force scaplers/flippers to stop buying up every box of ammo that hits the shelves.

I don't have a problem with normal pricing (cheap) of 22lr. It allows those of us not made of money to buy a brick or 2 of ammo once a week. Sure its not an emergency/necessity to buy ammo, but it is nice to be able to replenish what we shoot and build a small stockpile for the future. Raising it 4x the normal price would make it almost impossible for those with tight budgets to buy them. Who's to say that the scalpers/flippers won't then sell it for 8x the cost anyway???

I think what most of us can do as a whole to help alleviate the shortage is to calm down on buying up ammo and don't buy from scalpers/flippers to discourage those doing that.

Or not...
Amen !:):):)
 
The premise suggested in the original thread would work initially. Just think, you wouldn't blame the gunshops that want to charge $50 for a $20 bulk pack anymore that they often purchased at Walmart. You see, the ones that do this and I know about it have lost all of my business. I might do a transfer through them, but not buying much of anything... everything will come to me UPS and the heck with them. That good for business?

You see, buying and shooting 22 rimfire ammunition is voluntary. Many would simply stop using the 22 rimfire drug. The guns would gather dust and few new ones would be purchased. Good for business?

If everyone raised prices, then the ammunition producers would probably see their sales drop dramatically and they would cut workers and production as a result of it. Then you are likely to have the same problem, just at even higher prices. Is this good for business?
One thing apparent during the shortage were the small LGS was in the same boat as the rest of us. They were not getting ammo and about the only place they could secure it was from a walmart. So blaming them for doing everything possible to keep ammo in stock for their customers is wrong. They had to keep their doors open and if this is what it took to stay open for you you should be thanking them but like so many others you are blaming the wrong folks. Wise up.
 
:eek:Holy crap!!! This thread jumped 3 pages since mid yesterday. I say uncle. Keeping up with the comments has become like a job. That poor dead horse, I think it's actually more dead.


Best thing I've seen so far in a retailer is a waiting list. Put your name on the list and your order is filled when your name comes up. Ensures the retailer that all the goods aren't going to the same person or persons, an makes all customers happy.:D
 
I like a waiting list suggestion as well on the stipulation that they do not charge your credit card until the product is in stock and ready to ship.

I think on-line backorders are akin to that.

Yes, but how many of us have gotten an email stating it is back in stock and less than a minute later try to order it and it's already gone? To me, a waiting list means it's yours when it comes in unless you say you don't want it any more.
 
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