.22 LR -- Lack of Availability -- Maybe I'll Just Sell ALL of Mine!!

[Mike1234567]

I'm sick of this .22 LR lack of availability and insane pricing from scalpers/gougers. I was going to buy a 10-22 but now I'm thinking I'll just turn my "stash" into "cash" to put into another AR upper.

All these folks making money by scalping/gouging really ticks me off... but that's not what I'd be doing. I bought a few thousand rounds for my OWN USE a few years ago and will sell only the rounds I already have IF I sell at all. I WILL NOT buy new just to scalp others!! I HATE that!!

Anyone want .22LR at ten cents/rnd? I live far from the nearest UPS Service Center so I'd only sell large quantities.

WHY might I sell? As stated, I'm SICK of this .22 LR shortage cluster-you-know-what.

If there's any interest then I'll post in the Classifieds.

 

[Old Fuff]

I understand your frustration, but frankly I'm holding on to what I have. One of the few things I'm sure of is that if I decided to replace them later it would cost more, perhaps a lot more.

While it may not seem so, the manufacturers are making rimfire and other ammunition in record numbers, and given time the situation will resolve itself.

Meanwhile on the positive side, the massive demand behind the shortages suggest that that gun control advocates and supporting legislators may take a real hit in November's mid-term elections. If that happens the present pain may prove to be well worth it.

 

[TanklessPro]

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of "scalpers" that will buy all you have and flip it for some big bucks.

Go ahead but the madness will still continue......

 

[we are not amused]

I agree with you! I own a Ruger 10-22, and thoroughly enjoy the gun, except I can't hardly shoot it anymore. I was fortunate in that I bought a bunch of .22lr just days before the Newtown shooting, but I have been unable to buy any since.

I really want to buy one of the Ruger 10-22 break down rifles, and perhaps an Henry AR-7 for a bug out bag, but what is the point if I can't shoot them?

I am now shooting my Mini-14 and SKS rifles when I would really like to be shooting the 10-22, but I can get ammo for the former, not the latter.

 

[Mike1234567]

RE scalpers buying my ammo to flip: Okay then, I'll sell for fifteen cents per round. Let 'em TRY to make a profit on that. Gee whiz... at fifteen cents per round WHO NEEDS .22LR??

 

[torqem]

15c a shot still cheaper than 30c per shot .40, or 50c per shot 357. When you are dying of thirst, what is a bottle of water worth to you? It's all relative to the demand, is it not. Sorry, but the laws of economics do not, can not, and should not give a fig what you like or don't like about prices. As for me, I am waiting, but the first time that I get the chance to buy 100,000 rds of .22lr, of good quality, for 6c a shot, I'm going to do it. the chances of the price going enough lower to hurt me (at all) are very low, and my chances of being (later,next disaster) being able to triple my money on 1/3rd of it is good. Then the rest of my stash will have cost me nothing. I can always just shoot it. If I were 40 years younger,I'd buy 1/2 a million rds of it.

 

[spottedpony]

problem that lies is no matter how much ammo the suppliers manufacture, the present gougers are just going to buy up more and more and wait for price climbs. Members of the gun forums are just as guilty in some cases. I wont say where but recently i read a forum post where people were bragging about how much ammo they had "stockpiled". Per the numbers this person bragged about, it totalled around 60K.
so its not just the gougers who're guilty.

 

[Mike1234567]

^^^ I don't blame those who stockpile. I did it... a few thousand rounds anyway. But I bought when demand and prices were low so it was a harmless act. I don't blame those who stockpile at today's insane prices and lack of availability... let 'em spend their money however they wish. I don't even (fully) blame scalpers/gougers. It's we who pay those crazy prices that (encourage) the users/abusers. I won't do it!! Let the users/abusers have their way with those allowing themselves to be used and abused. It's a sick silly game that I'll not participate in. I'll dump all my .22LR first.

 

[JohnKSa]

Anyone want .22LR at ten cents/rnd?

Things are getting better here and I can buy it for that price in my area. Not that I'm going to. I have enough to last until things get back to normal. Sounds like you do too, actually.

 

[TanklessPro]

RE scalpers buying my ammo to flip: Okay then, I'll sell for fifteen cents per round. Let 'em TRY to make a profit on that. Gee whiz... at fifteen cents per round WHO NEEDS .22LR??

Sounds like you just became a "scalper"?

Still you sell it for $.15 a round and someone else sells it for $.20.

 

[Mike1234567]

^^^ No... "scalpers" buy rare commodities just to make a profit. I won't do that... not with something that's (often) a necessary thing. Old cameras and lenses... sure... but not ammo. I will, however, sell my .22LR at current "stupid prices" just to be rid of it and get out of .22LR altogether. I bought my .22LR years ago when the getting was good.

What do you expect me to do... sell all the .22LR that I invested in years ago for 1/3 of what I can buy it for?

 

[GEM]

Alamo city - San Antonio?

The other day Bass Pro had a large stock of Federal Target Grade 22 LR and 50 round boxes of CCI. The pain was that you could only buy one.

That's because of the 22 hoarders who patrol the stores every day.

It is a crisis generated by a small number of ....

Note - I went to Bass Pro to look at hiking shoes.

 

[MCgunner]

Oddly enough, I was just shooting my 10-22 off the back porch at a spinner target, wasting some Winchester ammo that won't function in much else and isn't flawless in the 10-22.

I pick up a brick or two now and then by watching Wikiarms for availability. Right now, things look pretty rough. I won't pay outlandish prices, have been picking up stuff at 4-5 cents a round. Of course there's shipping, but that's the times I guess. Last 525 round pack of Remington I got from Cabelas shipping free, though. That was AWESOME!

 

[rswartsell]

Do you have any CCI standard vel or Mini-Mag?

 

[M2 Carbine]

I'd like to see ammo available again. Since this present shortage started I've given away over 16,000 rounds of 22LR and pistol, rifle and shotgun ammo.

I will not sell ammo but I do give to friends who need it.

Last week I gave my doctor 2,100 rounds of Federal 22LR, because he couldn't find any locally, for his boy to shoot

When ammo becomes available and the price comes down again I'm going to tell these people,
"If you do not use a little common sense and plan ahead for the next shortage, and there will be more shortages, you will be on your own.
A blind man could see this shortage coming, and the last shortage to.
There's only two reasons for not having enough ammo to weather the shortage.
1. New shooters/gun owners that didn't have time to buy any ammo.
I have a several friends like that, that I've given thousands of rounds.
or
2. The people that have too tight a budget to stock up on a lot of ammo.
I also have friends like that, who I've given a lot of ammo.

Members of the gun forums are just as guilty in some cases. I wont say where but recently i read a forum post where people were bragging about how much ammo they had "stockpiled". Per the numbers this person bragged about, it totalled around 60K.

So, we people that planned ahead did wrong, and are instead supposed to be in the group of people that don't plan ahead and stock up before there's a shortage and high prices?
Sounds right. Then I can sit around and cry about not having any ammo?

Look at the dates on these boxes. I don't remember standing in line to buy it.
Where were all the people that have no ammo now?

 

[Mike1234567]

Alamo city - San Antonio?

The other day Bass Pro had a large stock of Federal Target Grade 22 LR and 50 round boxes of CCI. The pain was that you could only buy one.

That's because of the 22 hoarders who patrol the stores every day.

It is a crisis generated by a small number of ....

Note - I went to Bass Pro to look at hiking shoes.

I appreciate the info...

Yes... I "did" live in San Antonio but I moved south to Floresville and I almost never drive to SATX anymore. It's very much out of my way so driving there to buy ammo is a waste of time and resources for me. And only being able to buy ONE box? A gosh-awful waste for me.

I leave my location as "Alamo City" because I have my Texas pride. Sorry for the confusion though.

 

[TanklessPro]

^^^ No... "scalpers" buy rare commodities just to make a profit. I won't do that... not with something that's (often) a necessary thing. Old cameras and lenses... sure... but not ammo. I will, however, sell my .22LR at current "stupid prices" just to be rid of it and get out of .22LR altogether. I bought my .22LR years ago when the getting was good.

What do you expect me to do... sell all the .22LR that I invested in years ago for 1/3 of what I can buy it for?

How do you know that the people ,"scalpers and gougers" as you call them, aren't doing the same thing your talking about? Selling their "stash for cash".

Unless your willing to sell everything in 22 you have, the issue will not go away. Sell what you want at the price you want. Your stuff to do with as you please.

 

[Mike1234567]

Do you have any CCI standard vel or Mini-Mag?

Sorry... no CCI. I know many folks love the stuff.

I have Aguila SSS, Remington Game Loads (fragmenting)... and another that skips my memory at the moment.

 

[Mike1234567]

I'd like to see ammo available again. Since this present shortage started I've given away over 16,000 rounds of 22LR and pistol, rifle and shotgun ammo.

I will not sell ammo but I do give to friends who need it.

Last week I gave my doctor 2,100 rounds of Federal 22LR, because he couldn't find any locally, for his boy to shoot

When ammo becomes available and the price comes down again I'm going to tell these people,
"If you do not use a little common sense and plan ahead for the next shortage, and there will be more shortages, you will be on your own.
A blind man could see this shortage coming, and the last shortage to.
There's only two reasons for not having enough ammo to weather the shortage.
1. New shooters/gun owners that didn't have time to buy any ammo.
I have a several friends like that, that I've given thousands of rounds.
or
2. The people that have too tight a budget to stock up on a lot of ammo.
I also have friends like that, who I've given a lot of ammo.



So, we people that planned ahead did wrong, and are instead supposed to be in the group of people that don't plan ahead and stock up before there's a shortage and high prices?
Sounds right. Then I can sit around and cry about not having any ammo?

Look at the dates on these boxes. I don't remember standing in line to buy it.
Where were all the people that have no ammo now?

I've done that many times too but... isn't it amazing that folks are always willing to accept gifts but are seldom willing to give them? I'm a bit tired of that, actually.

 

[Mike1234567]

How do you know that the people ,"scalpers and gougers" as you call them, aren't doing the same thing your talking about? Selling their "stash for cash".

Unless your willing to sell everything in 22 you have, the issue will not go away. Sell what you want at the price you want. Your stuff to do with as you please.

SCALPERS buy today (before anyone else can) at low prices and flip the ammo for 2-4x what they paid.

GOUGERS buy today (as retailers before anyone else can) at low prices and sell for 2-4x what they paid.

FED UP PEOPLE (like me)... bought years ago and just want out of this mess. We're not buying up current stock to scalp or gouge anyone. BUT... we're not stupid enough to sell to people who will happily buy whatever we'll sell at pre-panic prices. When I'm out... I'm OUT... but I'll not take a beating for ANYONE.

Are some folks selling their "old stashes"? Sure... but most of those people are NOT scalpers/gougers. Most are just fed-up like me.

 

[M2 Carbine]

How do you know that the people ,"scalpers and gougers" as you call them, aren't doing the same thing your talking about? Selling their "stash for cash".

The local gun store manager has wanted me to sell him ammo, including 22LR, ever since the shortage started.

I was about to sell him some Wal Mart 550 bulk packs for the $17 I paid for it.
Then he got a WM bulk pack that was thrown in, in a trade, so the Manager actually paid nothing for the ammo.
He sold it for $50.
Then I refused to sell him any of mine.
I'll give it away before I'd sell it to a scalper.

 

[Mike1234567]

the local gun store manager has wanted me to sell him ammo, including 22lr, ever since the shortage started.

I was about to sell him some wal mart 550 bulk packs for the $17 i paid for it.
Then he got a wm bulk pack that was thrown in, in a trade, so the manager actually paid nothing for the ammo.
He sold it for $50.
Then i refused to sell him any of mine.
I'll give it away before i'd sell it to a scalper.

Bingo!!!!! I'd rather GIVE mine away then let some retailer or scalper take advantage of the shortage. My local pawn shop has been trying the same with me. There is NO HONOR in retail anymore. Oh... but wait... one cannot compare a PS with true retail. They're the lowest of the lowest of the lowest.

 

[M2 Carbine]

I've done that many times too but... isn't it amazing that folks are always willing to accept gifts but are seldom willing to give them? I'm a bit tired of that, actually.

Yeah that is true a lot.

But some people do appreciate what you do for them.
A couple lady friends that shoot at my place and I've been keeping in ammo, showed up Christmas with a real nice rifle shooting bench



And a nice pistol shooting rest.

 

[TanklessPro]

SCALPERS buy today (before anyone else can) at low prices and flip the ammo for 2-4x what they paid.

GOUGERS buy today (as retailers before anyone else can) at low prices and sell for 2-4x what they paid.

FED UP PEOPLE (like me)... bought years ago and just want out of this mess. We're not buying up current stock to scalp or gouge anyone. BUT... we're not stupid enough to sell to people who will happily buy whatever we'll sell at pre-panic prices. When I'm out... I'm OUT... but I'll not take a beating for ANYONE.

Are some folks selling their "old stashes"? Sure... but most of those people are NOT scalpers/gougers. Most are just fed-up like me.

I'm neither of what you listed. I have not bought and 22 in almost 2 years. I have only sold 22 to close friends, at approximately what I bought it for. Sorry I don't keep receipts.
I'm just saying, no matter what you or I do the issue will not go away.

I suggest keep/shoot what you have and don't buy anymore. Unless you want the money, sell it all and be happy.

 

[toiville2feathers]

Last week Gander Mtn. had Federal 525 bulk packs for $22 in Rogers, MN. I had gone to Mpls. and stopped at Cabelas while visiting there. Cabelas did not have any 22LR, very poor selection of bullets or powder.
When we left I drove past a new Gander Mtn. which had a grand opening banner out, so we swung in. They had 2 tables, 4 x4 stacked 6 high with these bulk packs, but a limit of one only. There was a bit of a flap over them. . There was a donkey customer who was all upset because the ad that was placed in the local paper said there was a limit of 10 boxes per customer, he was demanding 10.
I asked a employee if they had any powder and bullets. They are kept under lock and key. I got 2 lbs. of imr 8208 and 2 boxes of 6 mm v-max 87 gr.
Powder was $29 a lb. and bullets were $23 a box of 100. I didn't really consider those scalping prices, more like inflation.
When we do come back to a normal supply, prices will be remain high. Just like the fuel we buy, we have shown the industry we are willing to pay the high prices. The shooting community has grown by leaps and bounds. The newbies never experienced the low prices that we have. They are willing to pay the high dollar price, its as simple as that. Supply and demand drove the price up. New shooters will only welcome a stable supply and the high price will be the new norm which they will agree with.
We that belong to the shooting community prior to 2008 are in the minority now. We can rant all we want about the old days, but the newbies will only listen to the rant and pass it off as old fools who are entertaining to listen to.