10mm autos???s Rating and Help please.

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Love my 1076. I shoot DoubleTap exclusively. I just don't know of a more compact package with more power. It's a sweetie: controllable, accurate and solid as a rock.
 
I'm not much of a fan of the Glocks either, but the Model 20, 10mm is on my want list as a night stand gun.

I've shot 2 different Model 20's and they were both tack drivers, I'm highly impressed with the 10mm round. The glock model 20 will chamber S&W .40 and fire them effectively w/o FTF issues, the proper way is to add a model 22 barrel to the collection, makeing your Model 20 a model 22. Model 20 mag's feed the .40, for a 15+1 combination.
 
The glock model 20 will chamber S&W .40 and fire them effectively w/o FTF issues, the proper way is to add a model 22 barrel to the collection, makeing your Model 20 a model 22.
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You need a custom .40 cal barrel to do this. The stock G22 barrel will not work in the G20.
 
great gun

I bought one of the first cool 10s that being the SW 1006 its a great gun, that can handle tought loads easy and still works great with tempered down cast bullets for shooting paper. My only gripe with all Smith and Wessons is the accuracy, I just dont think they are as accurate as other brands. I would rate the gun a 9 out of 10, and have thousands of rounds through it. Its a great gun for carrying in bear country (Black) when hiking in the woods.
 
First person with problems with a DW 10mm? Not hardly. I have posted at length here on my issues with DW. I had four of their 10mm 1911s and all had issues ranging from minor to major out of the box. DW seems to have a fan base that advocates their guns to the point that they have a good reputation. My first hand experience is that the reputation does not stand up in person.

1. Razorback: would not close chamber consistently on any factory ammo (too tight a chamber), terrible trigger (probably 8 lbs), would not extract reliably. Returned to DW, comes back unfixed and with a large scratch on frame. Had my smith fix it and traded it off. I just had too bitter a taste in my mouth after DW started selling these for hundreds less than what we 1 of 150 buyers paid.

2. Pointman 10mm: extractor fails to extract, ejector does not contact rounds (they used the wrong one), will not feed. Gunsmith fixed all and current owner loves the gun.

3. Patriot 10mm: extractor comes loose after a few rounds, trigger pull gritty and heavy, extractor grips cases so tight they have to be pried loose. Traded at pawn shop.

4. Patriot bobtail 10mm: front sight tritium dead from factory, slide locks back prematurely, terrible trigger. Traded at pawn shop. Beware if you come across one of this as it might have been mine!

I have no excuse for buying four of their guns save for my 10mm fetish. It is a terrible thing.

Now for my current preference, see my review of the EAA 10mm Elite Match:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=168872

Now I have had my share of minor issues with Witnesses, but nothing like the parade of folly that I went on with Dan Wesson. My gunsmith remarked that they appeared to be just assembling the guns and hoping they worked rather than actually knowing how to put a 1911 together. Flame on DW fans, but I have had four of their guns and none were right. That is 100% failure out of the box. I see no reasonable excuse for that. I hope that CZ will correct this given their reputation for quality.

GR
 
Glocks

I also told myself that I would never buy a tupperware Glock. Then I mistakenly shot a Model 21 a guy at the range had. I now have 2 model 20's. 10mm. One is a range gun and the other is my carry gun. I now own 3 other Glocks as well. A model 22,26, and a 37.
For the price,abuse they can take, and 15+1 capacity, they are hard to beat!

Try one you might like it.
 
I have 8 SIG's becuase I tried one. All I need is another bad habit. I would like to try the Glock 20 10mm . The only thing stopping me is I think I would need a Bar-Sto barrel. All I shoot is my reloads more accuracy and more power. I just wonder if the Glock chamber in the 10mm has enough chamber support ???
Thanks,Keith
 
For what it's worth...

I don't own any 10s, but one of my firearms instructors had also been an instructor for the FBI back in the '90s when they briefly went to S&W 1076 and said the agents loved them. When the Bureau decided to drop the S&Ws they had to pry them out of the agents' hands.
 
Kidcoltoutlaw:

The Glock has moderate support for the case head. It will shoot the Double tap ammunition with a simple recoil spring upgrade. There is no need tor worry about using any commercially-loaded ammunition, The beast will handle it.

The 10mm is a high-performance pistol round and is not one with which someone should trifle. When it comes to handloading, learn from the experience of others and proceed with consummate caution. This will provide you with the best results.

Shoot safely,

Scott
 
I got a

5 inch forty barrel that gives me 1200 fps with a 180 . Sill I might one day get a Glock 20 . Maybe if I found one with a Bar-Sto barrel,
Thanks,Keith
 
That's too bad you won't look at the Glock 20.

It's the longest prodcued 10mm handgun in the world - and for a reason.

6" hunting and traget barrels and you can take a deer down!

Other than that, the 1911 10mm's are just harsh to shoot even with stiffer recoil springs installed. Shot the CDEs and the DW Razorbacks and they thump your hand a lot after a box or two.

I'd consider the Witness line of 10mm handguns as they are still in production as well and 10mm shooters like them too.

How about a SW 610 revolver? Love mine with it's 6" barrel. Can shoot 10mm and 40SW too:

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Devonai said:
You need a custom .40 cal barrel to do this. The stock G22 barrel will not work in the G20.
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Federal Arms makes drop in 40SW and 357 sig barrels for the Glock 20. I have them! $75 and you can get a Wolff recoil calibration spring set and you can shoot hot or soft loads.

You can also get a 6" KKM target barrel for 50-100 yard shots too.

It is the most versatile 10mm handgun platform.
 
Grayrider said:
First person with problems with a DW 10mm? Not hardly. I have posted at length here on my issues with DW. I had four of their 10mm 1911s and all had issues ranging from minor to major out of the box. DW seems to have a fan base that advocates their guns to the point that they have a good reputation. My first hand experience is that the reputation does not stand up in person.
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If you look at the Dan Wesson site, it appears they have linked themselves to CZ.

Look:

http://www.danwessonfirearms.com/

***?

Financial troubles?
 
kidcoltoutlaw said:
I have 8 SIG's becuase I tried one. All I need is another bad habit. I would like to try the Glock 20 10mm . The only thing stopping me is I think I would need a Bar-Sto barrel. All I shoot is my reloads more accuracy and more power. I just wonder if the Glock chamber in the 10mm has enough chamber support ???
Thanks,Keith
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They upgraded the case support several years ago.

Most Glock 20 shooters at GlockTalk have aftermarket 10mm barrels for a reason. We reload and want better accuracy. And the near if not full case support on the aftermarket barrels is good insurance.

The Glock 10mm barrel is fine for average shooters but 10mm addicts could use more.

I run a KKM barrel.:evil:
 
cdsdss said:
I don't own any 10s, but one of my firearms instructors had also been an instructor for the FBI back in the '90s when they briefly went to S&W 1076 and said the agents loved them. When the Bureau decided to drop the S&Ws they had to pry them out of the agents' hands.
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Some agents still carry them as a show of 10mm proficiency.

Reality, 10mm is approaching magnum level recoil and report and a lot of (cough - cough) sissy boys can't deal with it. so they put the 40Sw or 9mm in their hands.

From what I see them carrying, 45 acp is growing in popularity.
 
I do have a Smith 610 10mm in 4 inch

If I find a good enough deal on a Glock 20 I will have to get it. Used would be best because I would want a Bar-Sto barrel on it for the extra chamber support. I don't shoot factory ammo in my guns . Ammo is only hot if thats what it takes to make it accurate. With most guns I have a hot load and a mild load load they both must be accurate,
Thanks,Keith
 
kidcoltoutlaw said:
How is the chamber support in the factory barrel ?
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The chamber support issue with Glocks is, IMO, grossly exagerated. The Glock has all the chamber support of the 1911 as blessed by John Moses Browning, or at least my Glock does when compared to my brother's Springfield Armory Mil Spec. Bottom line is that the 10mm Auto can easily reach 650 to 700 foot pounds and still be safely within SAAMI specs for the cartridge. The Glock will take tens of thousands of any SAAMI spec load out there provided you use a jacketed bullet. The only reason I would get another barrel is if I was interested in nuking my 10mm and trying to hotrod it into something it is not or if I was using cast lead or unjacketed bullets. Personally, if I was to get another barrel for my Glock 20, it would be a BarSto .40 Smith and Wesson barrel to give me an option for cheaper practice.

I think it is a shame you have a perversion to Glocks. I wasn't too hot about them either until I owned one. I got the Glock 20 more out of interest for the cartridge than the gun but had to admit the gun felt better everytime I handled it prior to the purchase. The Glock 20 is very comfortable to shoot and offers an appealing blend of reliability, durability, simplicity, and magazine capacity. If it fits you, I think it deserves serious consideration on your part.
 
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