10mm opinions??

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Ok, so it looks like I might be goaded into getting a 10mm.
So there are 4 models readily available and at opposite ends of price range, so let's hear opinions on these!!
Sig P220 Legion
Glock 29
Sw M&P
Rock Island 1911.
 
I own the first 3. My opinion would be the P220. The heavier weight and fully supported barrel would allow you to shoot full power 10mm.

The Glock 29 and the M&P are good shooters too.
If you like the 1911 pistols I would recommend the Ruger SR1911 before the Rock Island. The Ruger has a fully supported barrel too.
Ruger and Beretta are on my radar, but haven't found them yet.
 
I have had a G20 in the past. Sold it after buying a G29. The smaller gun is just as accurate for me and easier to carry. It still uses the larger 15 round magazines. Things may be better now, but there were a lot of issues with 1911's in 10mm initially. The Glocks, and the long-discontinued Smith 1006 series are the only 2 platforms proven to hold up long term. EAA used to make one, may still, but those were problematic.

The Sig I know nothing about. But am interested in seeing how the new M&P works out. I could see me selling/trading my Glock for one if they prove to work well. I see the available at Sportsmans Warehouse now for $599 but I've not read anything from anyone who actually owns one.
 
I own the RIA in its most basic trim. It is a good gun, and at its price point there is nothing that can touch it. Bull barrel is a nice feature that I had never heard of, but it works well. My first outing with my gun put me at about 4” at 25 yards. The gun will do much better than that because I shot standing 2 handed slow fire but it was cold and I was rushed, plus I haven’t had much trigger time at all for the last little bit, and on the GI style guns the sights are not great. If your looking at guns like the 220 I feel certain that it outclasses the most basic RIA in fit and finish, but I would venture a guess that guns like the tac ultra would be an inexpensive rival in all measurable categories.

Also consider guns like the witness limited or witness elite. The guns have a following for a reason.
 
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Give the Springfield XDM Elite 3.8” 10MM a serious look. I have a G20, 1911 RI and have had a Witness 10MM, S&W 1006 and XDm full size and so far the Springfield XDM Elite 3.8 is my favorite.

If you want a full size for field carry the larger G20 or 220 will fit the bill. My XDM Elite 3.8 or G29 will be good for CCW.

It all depends on what you want to use the 10MM for that makes the difference.
 
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Things may be better now, but there were a lot of issues with 1911's in 10mm initially.

The early 10mm guns all had one thing in common. They got rushed to market prematurely. The round got developed and there was a sudden drag race to have a production pistol for sale. Colt was among the worst by shoehorning the round into a 1911 with an unsupported chamber and squared machining spots on the frame in areas where there was a lot of force. 10mm is no slouch on pressure so the chamber support proved to be an issue, but was negated when they watered down the 10mm ammo significantly (because some FBI agents complained about recoil). The squared machine cuts on the frame continued to be an issue because the way they were machined it focused stress to pinpoint locations causing frames to break. They fixed that later on too, but those issues are the definition of a premature release of a product. Other manufacturers (who lost the drag race to colt) had their fair share of issues as well. Yes those issues have been addressed in large part, and in many cases are not even notable in new production guns. HOWEVER it’s a shame that the manufacturers won’t own up to this and fix their products since the general populous essentially did their beta testing. I am extremely biased against Colt because of their disregard well after the issues were corrected in new production guns. A company with the clout they held should stand behind their product fully and they didn’t.
 
Glock did 10mm right and among the first to do so. They did 10mm before they put out their 45 which says something. And, I am not a huge Glock fan.

The 20 is a great option in 10mm and will hold up for a long time.
I never was interested in the 29 and would likely put that last among the options the OP listed as the short barrel takes a fair amount away from the 10mm.

Mark- interesting SA you have there!
 
I own the first and last. I'm generally not interested in plastic firearms, 10mm in particular.

Let me ask this, if a polymer selection and finely made metal model were the same price, and it was not for EDC (I get the weight issue) what would you buy?
 
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After seeing that Glock in the other thread I think I would be looking at the glock 20 (better yet 40) with an aftermarket barrel.

From your list I say go for the Sig. S&W hasnt been out long enough. RIA is a nice budget 1911 but I wouldnt want to run a lot of hot 10mm in it. Which you will eventually want to play with.

If you want a smaller 40 caliber pistol I would just find a really strong 40s&w.
 
I own the first and last. I'm generally not interested in plastic firearms, 10mm in particular.

Let me ask this, if a polymer selection and finely made metal model were the same price, and it was not for EDC (I get the weight issue) what would you buy?

Depends on the design and locking system. I would take the Sig over the Glock but I would also take the Glock or XD over a 10mm 1911. I always prefer steel over plastic but 10mm brings other factors into play.
 
I have a G20, and I bought it because I was already tied to the Glock platform. But it seems you are not.

So I'd take a serious look at the Springfield XDM. I never got terribly comfortable with the Springfield XD or XDM grip angle (though in hindsight if I'd worked at it like I worked on Glocks, I'm sure I'd have reached that point), but I thought the ones I'd used were really solid and well designed pistols.
 
I have the Ruger SR1911 .
I'd second the Ruger SR1911. I have a 10mm version, very nice pistol. I have a RIA 1911, but it's .38 Super and not 10mm. However, it's a very tight gun, well made, and the price is awesome. A friend of mine has the RIA 10mm double stack 1911 model, nice gun, but the grip is a bit wide for me.

I owned a 2nd Gen G20 for 27 years, never warmed to the Glock. I had way too many swelled cases from the not fully supported chamber, so I traded it for the Ruger, no regrets.
 
I own the first and last. I'm generally not interested in plastic firearms, 10mm in particular.

Let me ask this, if a polymer selection and finely made metal model were the same price, and it was not for EDC (I get the weight issue) what would you buy?
I would not EDC a 10mm, it’s over kill for defensive use. Modern 9mm, 45, 40 ammunition is so good, they will all get the job done. I’m not looking for a battle, that’s what my rifle is for, just to stop the threat or get to safety (my rifle)

were the 10mm shines is in the wood or forest. Bears, cougars, mountains goats, elk, ram. light weight and high capacity and power
 
I have the rock island, an m&p elite, a Glock 40 and a Glock 20. My good friend has the 29 and se shoot them all a lot. 10mm is a whole different beast. I reload for all of them and I have never had issues but I don’t load for max. I love carrying my elite but I don’t conceal it. I carry it in my edc bag that goes everywhere with me. If I am going to conceal I go for something like my m&p shield or xds. Now when it comes to hunting, I always have one of my 10mm’s on my hip. Nothing like a 10mm as a back up to anything I might run into. I think out of all of the 10mm’s my favorite is the m&p. It’s almost perfect for me and shoots so well.
 
I would not EDC a 10mm, it’s over kill for defensive use. Modern 9mm, 45, 40 ammunition is so good, they will all get the job done. I’m not looking for a battle, that’s what my rifle is for, just to stop the threat or get to safety (my rifle)

were the 10mm shines is in the wood or forest. Bears, cougars, mountains goats, elk, ram. light weight and high capacity and power

Check out Liberty Defense 10mm if you havent. 60gr goes 2,400 FPS and doesnt overpenetrate. Might be overkill. Might be just right depending on what you have to shoot at.

I agree though for the most part. I like 40s&w the most for a general carry. If I have to tackle a big mean bear I want a rifle. Cougar... probably a rocket pack.
 
Thanks for the replies!
I definitely have some revolvers on my wish list. 44mag will probably be my next revolver, but for 10mm I think I'm going to go with an auto first.
I'm not familiar with the Witness, I'll have to check into it.

XDM is a possibility, I'm very happy with my XD .40. One pro of 10mm is being able to use my .40 dies, and the ammo if I need to.

I have heard before that Glock got the 10mm right , more so than others. I think Ohen Cepel is right. If I get a Glock , I'm probably better to get the longer barrel and frame of the 20.

I like striker fired auto's and 1911 styles for different purposes. I was thinking of metal 1911 style for weight to help with recoil. This gun will not see much use as an EDC. It might accompany me if I'm ever in bear country, but otherwise will be mostly for farm and home defense.
I also agree with WestKentucky and have mostly written off Colt for auto's and AR-15s. I do love the Python though.

I have a RIA .38 special that is not pretty, but perfectly functional. I had a RIA 1911 in 45 acp that I probably should have kept. I wasn't really unhappy with it. Someone else just wanted it more than me and 45 is not my favorite caliber anyway.
Thanks for the replies. They're all good food for thought.:)
 
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