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10mm v .357 Magnum

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by OneShot!, Jun 21, 2007.

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Which is a better for Self Defense?

Poll closed Jun 23, 2007.
  1. 10mm

    48 vote(s)
    54.5%
  2. 357 Magnum

    41 vote(s)
    46.6%
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  1. OneShot!

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    I am considering to buy at new handgun, which is more powerfull than 9mm. The choices I have in front of me are 10mm and .357 Magnum. But not sure which one is better in terms of power and self defense use. Right now I carry 9mm pistols and .45s, and wanted to add more power to the collection.

    Your opinons are more than welcome.
     
  2. boomer1911a1

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    The bigger frontal area of the 10 would seem to give it the edge. This is with the assumption of a decently brisk load: say, Double Tap's 135-grain JHP at their advertised 1600 fps, which appears to be a pretty close match to the proven fight-stopper, the 125-g SJHP .357 Magnum.
    You can always mess up the comparison by changing loads, but this particular one would seem -- at least on paper -- to be very effective.
     
  3. OneShot!

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    boomer1911a1...
    Which make do you recomend in 10mm, other than Glock.
    I have alse heard that FBI adopted 10mm and later droped it. Why? I dont know. Any thoughts on that (anybody)?
     
  4. Wedge

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    They dropped it because of excesive recoil using full power loads. The FBI load (a lower power 10mm) is what became the 40 S&W. I believe that the frame size also played a role in the development/adoption of the 40 S&W to accomadate agents with smaller hands.
     
  5. mavracer

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    I'd have to answer your question with another revolver or auto,if auto 10mm if revolver 10mm if you can afford it if not 357
     
  6. DMK

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    I'd say both 10mm and .357 are great rounds with a lot of versatility. 10mm unfortunately is not nearly as common, available or widely used as .357mag.

    That said, the question really is: do you like revolvers or automatics?
     
  7. surjimmy

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    Your 10mm is about equal to a 41mag. Ammo is kinda of high, but worth it. I had a Dan Wesson Pointman and should have never let it go. The only other pistol I have liked better is my Les Baer PII. Check out the DW
     
  8. Eyesac

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    I tell you what, I would love a 10mm, but it's not the most popular of rounds, if it was as popular as 9/40/45 I probably wouldn't own a .45 at all.
    Oh, and I love my .357.
     
  9. SaaM

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    I own both a Glock 29 and a Dan Wesson Model 15 .357 Mag. Both are hellaciously powerful rounds. I reload all my bullets because of the price.

    I would have settled for a .357 Mag autoloader if they made them, but the 10 is just a kick ass round. I'm a large framed guy, so the recoil from either is manageable. But the DW is just too damned bulky with it's 6" barrel to be concealed.

    I'm not a fan of the .357 Sig, however.
     
  10. longeyes

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    The issue is revolver or semi-auto, no? Which do you prefer?
     
  11. dcloudy777@aol.com

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    The 10mm is available in the 1911 platform, while, with the exception of the uber-cool Coonan guns, the .357 Magnum is not. So settleth the argument...

    DanO
     
  12. ozwyn

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    I really like 10mm, but given what happens to the gun after you shoot and the police pick it up (ruined by evidence handling), .357 might be less of a heartbreaker.

    Both are damn fine for defense.

    10mm firearms - I hear surprisingly good things about the cz clone witness pistols in in 10mm. Steel frames and 15 round capacity is a nice mix.

    If you look around you might still be able to find a smith and wesson revolver in 10mm, which is also a dang fine looker.

    .357 magnum has a lot of excellent choices in terms of low budget quality revolvers. There has been the rare auto for the round, but they are bulky and obscure.

    if you ever decide to expand your range into handgun + carbine, .357 has a few levergun choices which adds to the appeal of the round.
     
  13. McCall911

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    Tough, tough choice but I voted for 10mm.

    I've been sold on the 10mm's versatility for some time, having owned a Colt Delta Elite. It's good with .40 S&W-equivalent loads as well as stronger loads.
    However, the .357 Magnum is also a sentimental favorite but, truth told, I'd rather have the 10mm. The reason: If the 10mm can do everything that the .357 Magnum can do, it does so in a more efficient package, so that's why it got my vote.
     
  14. Langenator

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    The 10mm can be found chambered in new autos made by Glock, Witness, Kimber, and Dan Wesson. The Witness is a CZ clone, the Kimber and DW are 1911s.

    Used, it's available in autos from S&W (the 10xx series-1076 was what the FBI used) and Colt (the Delta Elite). There are also some less common ones like the Bren 10 floating around. S&W also made a revolver, the 610, in 10mm.

    Pretty much every company that makes or has ever made revolvers made at least one model in .357 Magnum.
     
  15. mpmarty

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    Go for the Ten and don't look back. The 200gr hollow point at over 1200 fps is midway between the 357 and the 41 magnum. Sixteen rounds in a very nice comfortable pistol (the Witness full size all steel) is a joy to have on your hip and much fun at the range. Bullets are available in weights from 135 to 220 grains and muzzle energy ranges up to over seven hundred foot pounds. My Witness is very accurate out to a hundred yards without holding six feet over the target. The .40 cal 200gr bullet has a very good ballistic coefficient and doesn't shed velocity like similar weight .45s. For summer self defense against humans the 135 gr at 1600 fps is good as stated above but don't trust it in the winter in cold climates as it can literally come apart penetrating heavy clothing whereas the 200 gr hollow point or solid just keeps on going like 18" in gelatin.
     
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    Should've said "can do everything...plus maybe a little more." But anyway...

    And thanks, OneShot! I've succeeded in talking myself into a future 10mm! :D
     
  18. p85

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    Ya'll have warmed my heart. As an owner of a 10, I would pick it also. I have owned 357's and have liked them very much but I lean toward autoloaders. I personally carry the Witness full size steel frame 10mm in an IWB holster.
     
  19. surjimmy

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    You guys check out randgfirearms.com he has a engraved Delta Elite. Sweeeeeeeeet
     
  20. Glockorama

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    I like 'em both, but the 10mm is my favorite cartridge period.

    My Glock 20 with 16 rounds of 180gr doubletap ammo? Yeah, I'm good. :)
     
  21. Cocked & Locked

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    eenie-meenie-minnie-moe...

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  22. Greg8098

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    Glock 20

    I have both a GP100 .357 Mag, and a Glock 20 10mm. I like both of them very much, and don't plan on parting with either one. I give a slight edge to the 10mm though, it's just too neat to be without. If companies like DoubleTap stay in business, then my Glock 20 will stay with me forever :D!!! Although .357 mag is much easier to find, when you find true " full power " 10mm ammo it makes the search all that more rewarding ;).



    P.S - stay away from .357 sig, you will be better served by a plain vanilla 9mm. Don't let the flash and blast fool you!
     
  23. HiroProX

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    I'm voting for the 10mm, mainly since your listed prior experience is in autoloaders.
     
  24. pinotguy

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    While there is absolutely nothing wrong with the .357 Magnum, I also voted for the 10mm. Absolutely LOVE this cartridge. I like its power, I like its performance, I like the platforms it is/was offered in, and there's something cool about owning a caliber that's off the beaten path.

    If you opt for the 10mm, I'd stick to loads in the 155-gr. to 180-gr. range for SD purposes. To me, the 135-gr. weight is just too light and the 10 hits its stride with the heavier bullets.
     
  25. SaaM

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    Actually, now that I think about it, you should do like I do and go for both
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