10mm vs. 45ACP

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Whether "grandma has balls" is irrelevant. You clearly indicate, as shown below, that Kuenzli was "unarmed" and engaging in "verbal threats alone." On this point you were wrong, as was pointed out to you four times now.
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You conveniently left out my statements in Post#72 where I clearly said he was armed but did not brandish the weapon.

You need to read more carefully and not read into stuff and consider the context the statement is made in.

The 10mm will not send you to prison. It is not the devil round.
 
918v said:
The 10mm will not send you to prison. It is not the devil round.
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I never said it was, or otherwise discussed the 10mm round in any way, so you erred again.

Post 60 (clearly 60 is before 72):
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Harold's problem was he shot an unarmed man.
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You are the one making the false statement ... Nor did I say that Kuenzli was unarmed.
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Clearly the above two posts are inconsistent.

You can complain about it ad infinitum, nothing changes. I was correct in my assertion and made no false statement as you incorrectly suggest. You, on the other hand, were incorrect and did make a false statement.

You were also inconsistent in suggesting that Kuenzli did nothing more than shout verbal threats.
 
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You purposefully omitted my earlier post from your "assessment" in an effort to call me a liar. Your analysis is dishonest.

I did not discuss the charging because it does not matter:
 
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I omitted nothing and posted your exact quotes to give a 100% accurate analysis. I simply pointed out your inconsistent posts. You can learn from your mistake, or not, it makes no difference to me. Complaining about it certainly doesn't change anything.
 
You omitted my statement from post #72. OT does not matter what I said in my first post. You drew an improper inference because of your lack of understanding of the subject. Now you are trying to save face.
 
Your assertion was that I "omitted your earlier post." I did not. Your changing your tune AFTER I pointed out your inconsistency has no bearing on the facts as I have presented them.

Your assertion that Kuenzli was unarmed was also incorrect, as was your assertion that Kuenzli did not charge Fish.

Despite repeated attempts, you have failed to gain any traction. All you're doing is cluttering up this thread. It's time to get over it and move on.
 
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I live in KY. The one and only time I was in serious fear that I might have to shoot someone (actually multiples, a carful of drunk, massive football players) I happened to be carrying a S&W 1006 loaded with full power Silvertips.

I can recall LOTS of thoughts racing through my head in those few tense moments. One thing I DON'T remember thinking is "I wish I were carrying a less powerful gun."
 
For the 1st time on this forum I just added some folks to my Ignore List.

I didn't know THR had that feature/option but it does. Now when I look at this thread it is ON TOPIC.

I like 10mm and .45 acp. If I 100% knew things were going to get tough I'd take my 10mm.

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Your assertion was that I "omitted your earlier post." I did not. Your changing your tune AFTER I pointed out your inconsistency has no bearing on the facts as I have presented them.

Your assertion that Kuenzli was unarmed was also incorrect, as was your assertion that Kuenzli did not charge Fish.
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I like the 10mm. The bullets have better sectional density and offer better penetration with the same level of expansion. But the 45 is a better choice in terms of availability. I think the 45 is enough gun for any gunfight.
 
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It's time to let it go. My comment was meant only as constructive criticism. If I knew you were going to be this upset, I would never have called attention to your mistakes.
 
Also looked at the Kahr P45, nice gun, but 900 bucks. The Block, if I could conceal it, would be a perfect CCW gun. The P45 is popular with the shop owners, and two of them own em. It's the Block on a diet.
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$900 for a p45 you need to find a new shop they shouldn't be that much even with the bells and whistles. Also take a look at the Kahr CW45 they should be about $400 and mine is a shooter.
 
It's time to let it go. My comment was meant only as constructive criticism. If I knew you were going to be this upset, I would never have called attention to your mistakes.m
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What makes you think I'm upset?

I harbor no ill will toward you.

My mistake is assuming people think like I do.

Your mistake is reading into things too much.

I suggest you take a course in criminal law at the local college, or sit in on a use of force training class at your local police academy if they permit. Your outlook will change completely.
 
I promise you there does not exist a jurisdiction in this country that would have permitted the Fish shooting, and Fish would still be prosecuted today if he had shot this man under the same circumstances.
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That is wrong! because they could retry him but have not and are not going to retry him.
 
$900 for a p45 you need to find a new shop they shouldn't be that much even with the bells and whistles. Also take a look at the Kahr CW45 they should be about $400 and mine is a shooter.
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Or, I need to catch him at another moment. I think he's feeling fat after a successful Christmas. Also, I brought my SSix in to maybe trade, and he was mad, since he only made 100 bucks on a 400 dollar gun. Course he forgets I ordered it, so his money was never tied up at all.

That Glock 29 is calling to me. I suspect the Fish case has made that gun an untouchable, and that it's been there a LONG time.

The other Glocks are all priced over 600.

Also I would like a CW 45, Mainly because I will be shooting a LOT of hard cast, non-gas checked bullets. Have a 1000 rounds of such waiting in .45.
However, the wise folks in Kali haven't put them on their 'list' yet.

I may have to get out the list of folks that use the single shot exemption, and see what they have to say. Besides, their prices MIGHT be cheaper then our local shop. The only other shop around jacked their prices up when they moved into a new building


"Elkins45 I live in KY. The one and only time I was in serious fear that I might have to shoot someone (actually multiples, a carful of drunk, massive football players) I happened to be carrying a S&W 1006 loaded with full power Silvertips.

I can recall LOTS of thoughts racing through my head in those few tense moments. One thing I DON'T remember thinking is "I wish I were carrying a less powerful gun." "

Probably the only reason I wished I lived in Kentucky.;)
 
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Your mistake is reading into things too much.
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I have made no mistake. You, however, have made numerous mistakes, which I have pointed out above.

Also, I made no assertion regrading criminal law, so your futile attempt at suggesting I did also fails.

Perhaps you would benefit from a course in logic offered at your local community college.

Nobody wants to listen to your continued bickering, least of all me. Get over it and move on.
 
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