10mm vs Bear

Status
Not open for further replies.
B

Brad5192

Member
Joined
Oct 26, 2008
Messages
202
Location
MN
Will a Glock 20 10mm stop a Bear if you do your part and make a good shot.
 
Yes, even a pellet gun may kill a bear if you shoot him point-blank in the eye or in the ear.

Would I take it hunting for bear? No way.
Would I take it just in case I may happen to come accross a bear while I am in the woods? Absolutely.

Your 10mm is probably better than a stick or a stone.

Any gun is better than NO GUN.
 
No not afraid of bears just looking for a good side arm for when i go bow hunting for bear. I like the mag. capacity. Well I have been close to bears two years ago my dad wounded one just before dark so i grabbed my shot gun and load up 00 Buck and slugs. When we where looking for the bear in the dark with flashlights i seen a weeds moving around so i went to look closer. Well to my surprise there was the wounded pissed off bear five feet from me. I jump back and then the bear got up on all fours looked at me then looked in to the woods and one shot of 3" 00 Buck and bear tipped over.
 
This is the bear we where after but in the end dad shot a smaller one and when he shot the one he did he had no idea how big it was.

We started hunting this bear four years ago we saw it only one time on the camera in the day has a fluke on the deer trail so then we been hunting for the big one.
 

Attachments

  • MDGC0003.jpg
    MDGC0003.jpg
    289.2 KB · Views: 181
  • MDGC0004.jpg
    MDGC0004.jpg
    285.5 KB · Views: 88
Last edited:
looking for some thing to carry on my hip. I use shot gun and slugs if i track a bear.
 
Yes... a G20 full of 200+ grain FMJ or hard cast full-house loads makes a fine sidearm for hunting. You can expect about 3-4 feet of penetration in gelatin... that's enough for most animals.
 
A 15 round gun that smacks a 200 grain bullet @1200fps on a BLACK bear is probably fine. Accurate bullet delivery, a cool head, steel nerves under stress, and being prepared to shoot til its down are also useful in additon to an adequate gun. A bigger gun is better. A 10mm Glock on the hip is WAY better than anything less powerful, and a Glock is pretty weatherproof and pleasant to carry due to being compact and lightweight. I've often thought that G20 would be one of the best compromises in trail guns.
 
I hope so! That's what I carry while backpacking. :D

Seriously though, I feel very safe with the 10mm. Would I rather have a .44mag in my hand while staring down a bear? Sure, but if you've ever done any real backpacking than you know that lugging a 6" Redhawk around is a bit of a no-go.

The Big Ten is fine for the Eastern US. It'll do the trick for black bear and boar. If I was in grizzly country, I'd go bigger.
 
I'd be happy with a Glock 29 and Buffalo Bore 10mm 200 gr FMJ stuff AS A BACKUP to a 12 guage shotgun with sabot slugs.

But I'd have the 12 in my hand if at all possible.

Deaf
 
Black bear yes, brown bear no. Even the 200gr bullets have a relatively poor sectional density, comparable to a 225gr .44. So personally, I wouldn't use them for anything bigger or tougher than deer.

And I'll happily leave the shotguns at home in favor of a big bore levergun, thank you very much.
 
Last edited:
Depends on the bear, it's size and it's attitude. Just as there are different scenarios with humans, different situations with animals disprove the notion that there is a perfect caliber for every encounter.

If you come upon a black bear and startle it, you may get away with a well placed shot from a 10mm.

But,

If you come upon a grizzly that's mad at the world and it charges, you might put every round you have into it and it could continue to attack you until it takes its last breath.

Hopefully you'll never have to find out.
 
10mm is more than enough for a black bear. I think even if ypu SPECIFY BLACK BEAR in these bear threads, and there have to be thousands of 'em in the archives, the first guy to post automatically assumes Alaskan grizzly, even if the guy posting the OP just wants to hunt bear in North Carolina. :rolleyes: The 10 has the energy of the .357 magnum and pushes a bigger bullet. Of course it's enough to hunt bears. I'm a revolver guy and I'd buy a 629 rather than a 610 for bear hunting, but I'm just sayin'....
 
The 10 has the energy of the .357 magnum and pushes a bigger bullet.
Click to expand...
Yes, with much less sectional density. Energy ain't everything. A 180gr .357, which is what one should use for black bear, has a sectional density of .201, which is better than the 250gr .44 Keith bullet or slightly less than the 270gr .44 Gold Dot. Either of which would be fine for black bear. Even a 200gr 10mm only has a sectional density equal to that of a 158gr .357. Much as I despise the .357 and love the original 10mm (.38-40) I'd rather use a 180gr .357 against bear than any 10mm. An FMJ would be a poor choice anyway, very little tissue disruption. They're not as tough as people think they are either.
 
The big problem folks have with the 10mm is its recoil and the scarce ammo, at least around these parts. There are a lot of G20's and the compact version on the local swap boards all the time, often from folks wanting to sell cheap or trade down to a .40.
 
Cosmoline, don't you guys up there reload? It isn't anymore expensive to load for 10mm than .45ACP. Recoil fo the 10mm is negligible compared to the bear guns that you AK guys always talk about . (shotguns with slugs, .458 Mags, etc):D
 
Read this very good description of a bear attack that occurred several days ago. They managed to do just about everything wrong (ran from the bear, had the pepper spray buried in a pack), yet still managed to save themselves by eventually deploying some pepper spray.

http://www.adn.com/2010/07/08/1359490/mountain-biker-recounts-tale-of.html

Mountain bikers describe attack by grizzly on Peninsula trail
RESURRECTION TRAIL: Group surprised sow with cubs.

By MEGAN HOLLAND
[email protected]

(07/09/10 12:14:09)

Tyler Nord doesn't remember the moment the grizzly pounced on him. He couldn't tell you what her breath smelled like or how soft her fur was. All he remembers is summoning the adrenaline that was coursing through his body to his legs to push her off.

The memories of the attack are like a strobe light of images playing through his mind, he said Thursday in talking of the encounter involving him, two mountain-biking companions and the bear on Resurrection Trail.

The bear bit or clawed into Nord's thigh, but he wouldn't notice that until later, after the grizzly and her cubs had retreated to the woods, bear spray in her face.

Nord, fiancee Kimi Elliott, and a friend on vacation from Portland, Kyle Eisenbach, all 25, were riding mountain bikes on Resurrection Pass Trail near Hope on Tuesday when they were attacked by the sow protecting her two cubs. All three bikers received superficial scratches, with Nord's puncture wound to the thigh being the worst. Their 2-year-old dog, Kobi, an Australian cattle dog, was uninjured, despite its own confrontation with the bear.

"None of it really seemed real. I wasn't scared because it seemed like a dream," Nord said.

Nord and Elliott, both engineers in Anchorage, wanted to show their out-of-town guest the Alaska outdoors, the pair recalled on Thursday. They drove down to the Kenai Peninsula in the morning for a 20-mile, daylong bike ride along the popular Resurrection Pass, a 38-mile trail that runs from near Hope to the Sterling Highway near Cooper Landing.

They had already stopped for lunch and were about six miles into the trail when Elliott took the lead. Nord had a bear bell on his bike. Elliott describes herself as a constant talker. They were trying to make noise, but at that particular spot the river that runs near the trail is loud. Real loud.

According to Nord and Elliott, Elliott rounded a corner and startled the bear lounging on the dirt path. Two cubs were nearby. Elliott slammed on her breaks and skidded to a stop. She quickly got off her bike, which she was clipped into at the pedals, and began retreating, walking the bike with one foot still attached to a pedal. She knew there was going to be an attack. She knew the bear wouldn't quietly go away. She had been way too close.

She began backtracking toward Nord and Eisenbach. Kobi took position, barking and growling at the bear.

The bear ran for Elliott. She dropped her bike and went for a clearing off to the side. She knew she was supposed to not run away from a bear but at that moment her own fear took over. She ran for her life.

Nord and Elliott both said the whole thing seemed like it was happening in slow motion but at the same time it all happened in a flash.

The bear was on Elliott but didn't take her down. It swatted her on the shoulder. but she doesn't remember the contact. It was right there, with her, running alongside her. She thought, "How am I not getting completely demolished right now?"

Later, she would notice bear slobber running down her biceps. She's not sure how it got there.

"Get the bear spray! Bear spray!" she kept yelling. The spray was in Nord's backpack.

Nord, who was farther down the trail, looked back and saw the sow going for his fiancee. He dropped his backpack and started running toward the bear. The sow turned its attention to him.

He remembers seeing a very big head that came up to his chest, the flash of her teeth, and the odd, misplaced thought that she was a very pretty bear. "It wasn't scary because it didn't seem real," he said.

Nord, who had fallen and was on his back, crunched his legs to his chest just as the bear landed on him. He pushed her off and she retreated. Nord doesn't remember her biting or clawing him. He didn't feel it. His adrenaline was skyrocketing.

Eisenbach was the bear's next target.

"Fetal position! Fetal position," Elliott yelled at her fiance's best friend, whom she had only recently met.

Eisenbach put himself into a ball next to a fallen tree. The bear was on him when Nord found the bear spray in the backpack and ran up to within 5 feet of her.

He had never used bear spray before and didn't know how close he needed to be, he said. "I hope this works," he thought to himself.

The bear was on top of his friend, pawing at his friend's backpack.

Nord got real close and pulled the trigger, aiming at the sow's face.

"She had a stunned look," he said of after the chemicals hit her.

He sprayed again.

In a flash she was gone into the woods.
Click to expand...
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

1
  • Locked
10mm vs. Mr. Brown...(BEAR)
Replies
3
Views
497
Larry Ashcraft
Larry Ashcraft
ECVMatt
  • Locked
Glock 20 vs big bear
2
Replies
43
Views
10K
Robert
Robert
B
  • Locked
10MM question
Replies
20
Views
1K
BruceB
B
L
  • Locked
10 mm questions
2
Replies
35
Views
2K
MachIVshooter
MachIVshooter
N
  • Locked
Minimum for Black Bear
2 3
Replies
59
Views
3K
Cayoot
C
Back
Top