1911 Trade options?

[CHALK22]

So I have the opportunity to trade my Springfield 1911A1 for either a SA XD .45 tactical, a S&W M&P .45, or a S&W M&P.45 compact(both S&Ws are NIB) I have an XDm 9mm and I love it, and the only thing holding me up on that one is that gun is OD/black. Just looking for anyone who has experience with any of these.

 

[beeenbag]

If you have a xd and like it, stick with it. If you want to change it up then do. It is all about what YOU want, not us.

 

[CHALK22]

I know, I am just at the point where I am thinking of spreading out my "branding" when it comes to handguns. I think I already have my mind made up, just looking for some outside opinions is all...

 

[mnhntr]

none of the above

 

[CHALK22]

I was waiting for that response also.

 

[spartan00054]

I have an XD45 Tactical that is OD/Black. I bought it because I live in CA and you can only buy handguns that are on our state DOJ approved list, and I couldn't find anybody who had the Black/Black with the ten round magazines. I was apprehensive at first, because, in addition to me thinking it was fugly, I run with a pretty tough crowd when it comes unusual aesthetic choices in firearms. I figured I was doomed to some serious ribbing, and that did come to pass.

But you know what? It has grown on me, and it's grown on all of my buddies, too. It's to the point now that one of them has purchased a similarly colored GLOCK. The performance of the gun was never in question, and as an owner of an XD9, you should know that they're a solid weapon.

 

[SteelManCM]

I picked up an OD/Black XD 45 for $350 and I love it. Don't think I'd ever be able to get a SA 1911 for that, though.

 

[CHALK22]

Well I originally bought my 1911 for close to that, and sortof bought it as an "investment" or "trade material" so I think it will work out okay for me. I have been pondering it, and I think the OD is starting to grow on me.....maybe I need OD furniture on one of my ARs for a matching set?

 

[SteelManCM]

I am starting to see (about 2 months now) BNIB XDm setups for $499. I'm sure you could trade the SA1911 for an XDm. Otherwise, go or the XD and some cash.

 

[CHALK22]

I have an XDm9 already, and I love that gun. Where are you in the states that you are seeing prices like that? They are still hovering around $600 around here. I am sure the new XDm .45 will still be above that for a while....

 

[PabloJ]

I have an XDm9 already, and I love that gun. Where are you in the states that you are seeing prices like that? They are still hovering around $600 around here. I am sure the new XDm .45 will still be above that for a while....

I would get US made Smith & Wesson. Six hundred is a mound of cash for something half plastic and made in CROATIA.

 

[gatornavy]

whats wrong with "made in croatia" I love my xd, how is made in croatia different from made in italy, made in germany, or made in america? Hi point is made in america i guess they make quality pistols too, and last time i checked the M&P was half plastic also!

 

[CZ57]

I voted for the XD Tac but would have rather voted for an XDm had it been in the poll. Since your dealer has the XD maybe he could get you an XDm instead?

 

[Jed Carter]

1911-A1 GI for any of those... No. Trade straight up, no way. If I had to choose between an XD and M&P... M&P would be my choice. Grip safety and high bore axis alone would have me looking at something besides the XD. M&P compact vs fullsize... Fullsize. Why trade a long slim pistol for a shorter, fatter, less accurate one?

 

[CHALK22]

It is a private trade, those pistols are just what he has to offer. And I am not the biggest fan of the 1911 platform (GASP) Also it being the GI version, it is very plain jane. (1911 guys read "reliable")I believe the trade will go down tomorrow, so we'll see how it goes.....

Also, I have no problem with the grip safety. If you are holding the gun correctly, it will fire. If not, maybe you should think about what you are doing righ then.

 

[LCPor9mm]

Really???

And I am not the biggest fan of the 1911 platform (GASP)

No flames here but curious as to why?

 

[ocharry]

i'm a 1911 guy and this past summer i got an compact XD45 package for $400 and i got to tell ya i love the thing,,,and now on the front of rifleman mag from NRA this month they have the compact XDm on the cover

only you can decide,, i like the short grip on the compact,, handles the 45 acp round very nice

my .02

ocharry

 

[9mmepiphany]

Just for the reason that your are happy with your XD, you should stick with the platform just fro the practical value...the workmanship and design is very god on the Croatian XD

However, I do think the M&P 45 has better ergos for most people, has the adjustable backstrap (if you'll ever make use of it) and I'm not a fan of OD on a gun.

If you're not a 1911 fan, either the XD or M&P platforms will give you superior service with less attention

 

[CHALK22]

No flames here but curious as to why?

I guess I should clarify here. I guess I should say I am not to fond of that particular gun. I bought it "right" from a guy who needed fast cash, sortof as trading material should anything come up. I was cruising a gun "list" this weekend and I think I found that opportunity. Right now I think the XD .45 will be more what I need/want right now. Eventually I will have another 1911, but I think when I go down that road, it will be an "expensive" and "custom" one. Right now I don't really "want" to shoot that gun much, but I do want to become more comfortable with the .45 ACP round. I love my other XDm, so I am more using it as a way to convince myself to get out and shoot that caliber.

 

[LCPor9mm]

1911

I guess I should clarify here. I guess I should say I am not to fond of that particular gun. I bought it "right" from a guy who needed fast cash, sortof as trading material should anything come up. I was cruising a gun "list" this weekend and I think I found that opportunity. Right now I think the XD .45 will be more what I need/want right now. Eventually I will have another 1911, but I think when I go down that road, it will be an "expensive" and "custom" one. Right now I don't really "want" to shoot that gun much, but I do want to become more comfortable with the .45 ACP round. I love my other XDm, so I am more using it as a way to convince myself to get out and shoot that caliber.

Sounds reasonable to me.
The only reason I asked was I just purchased my first .45 caliber handgun and it is a 1911 platform. It is absolutely my favorite handgun after just two outings. So after being so enamored with it, I was wondering what it was you didn't like. Since this is my first .45 and I don't own an XD I'm not sure which is "better" but I would bet the 1911 is more comfortable to shoot.

 

[CHALK22]

I really like the XDm grip, and the interchangeable backstraps, although untill last weekend, I never changed them from the medium strap. I put the large backstrap on, and it feels even better than before. And in the defense of my 1911 it came with Houge overmolded grips on them, it is possible the originals would have felt better. I also get totally frustrated with the 7 round mags. I even had a 10 rounder ( which looked stuoid hanging out the bottom)and still got mad. It seemed just as I got in a rhythm, the slide would lock back empty. I know the XD .45 will not have the adjustable backstraps, but I still love thier grips and grip angle.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Eventually I will have another 1911, but I think when I go down that road, it will be an "expensive" and "custom" one. Right now I don't really "want" to shoot that gun much, but I do want to become more comfortable with the .45 ACP round.

There is a lot to be said for this line of reasoning. Hilton Yam (10-8 Consulting) just wrote some of his thoughts on choosing a first 1911...very well thought out

http://10-8performance.blogspot.com/2011/01/choosing-your-first-1911-some-thoughts.html

 

[LCPor9mm]

Grips

I really like the XDm grip

Chalk22: I know what you mean about the grips. When I went looking for a full size 9mm I picked up just about every 9mm handgun at a local gun show. That narrowed it down to about 5 - 6 but I kept coming back to the P99. That grip was perfect. About two weeks latter I was the proud owner of a shiny new Walther P99 and it was my favorite auto pistol.....until I started shooting a 1911 that is. After the purchase of my 1911, I brought both pistols to the range and side by side the 1911 is just nicer, easier, more comfortable, I'm not exactly sure how to describe it but to me it is more fun to shoot. I know much of this can be attributed to the snappier 9mm vs .45 ammo and a plastic frame vs a steel frame so maybe it's not just a 1911 thing, but whatever it is I'm sure if you give it a chance you will really enjoy the 1911 platform.

 

[LCPor9mm]

Well thought out or contradictory?

9mmepiphany:
While I follow the logic of the 10-8 article, I find it contradictory. The article implies there is no middle ground,

There is no dipping of the toe in the 1911 swimming pool, either dive all the way in or do not waste your time and money

then says there is

My top picks for such a starter gun is the Springfield GI and Milspec 5" Government format guns, which can be had for around $5-600 if you shop around.

So maybe you can dip your toe, sort a speak with a mid range priced 1911, see if you like the platform and work up from there if you have the urge. Now I know these mid range toe dippers will have MIM parts and less, ok no, hand finishing but should that be a deal breaker? The article seems to say no

Done properly, these parts can work well and last a long time.

What this article says to me is 1911s like most everything else these days can be had at what ever price range you want. Some people simply cannot afford or choose not to enter the market at the most expensive tier but at some level more within their price point. Does that mean they have to settle for crap? I don't think so, I think as the article states there are plenty of choices in the $500-$600 range that will get the job done for a great many people without having to jump in the deep end of $1,200 and up.

 

[9mmepiphany]

While I follow the logic of the 10-8 article, I find it contradictory. The article implies there is no middle ground,

Maybe I read it differently, or just from a different point of view. What it says to me is:

1. If you want a 1911 that will work...for more than casual use...you can't just dip you toe in.

2. If you are not ready to go into the deep end of the pool, you are better off saving money with a good starter 1911 that you can later build on rather than something in the middle that gets you part way there.

What I read is that there is no part-way there. But you have to bear in mind that Hilton's concern is providing a 1911 that will be used to protect and save lives...a opposed to a range toy.

Done properly, these parts can work well and last a long time.

The key words are done properly...and I would add use appropriately. Correctly done MIM can be used for certain parts very well, not so well for others