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.223 Bolt Action w/ the Following:

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by BerettaNut92, Jan 27, 2004.

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  1. BerettaNut92

    BerettaNut92 Member

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    Is there a .223 with the following:

    6.5 lbs or lighter
    Can be top-loaded (detachable magazine or not)
    Iron sights
    20" barrel or shorter
    $600 or less.

    The Remington 700 ADL is sounding good but they don't make it in .223. Other than saying 'tactical' why is the LTR so much more, because it has a fluted barrel? Can it be had with irons?
     
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    Mr. Skunkabilly,
    Have you looked at the 527 series CZ rifles?
    CZ Firearms
     
  4. Kestryll

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    Don't do it!! Don't look at the CZ 527 series!
    Don't be lured in by thier svelte styling, nice triggers and european good looks!!
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    Oh goodness I want a 527 Kevlar varmint rifle SOOooo bad!!...
     
  5. ocabj

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    The 700P/LTR come with kevlar and fiberglass stocks made by, iirc, HS Precision. I don't think you can put irons on them without silver soldering a front one on the barrel. Someone will have to verify that one.

    What are you planning on doing with it?

    The CZ is a good choice, but the Remington 700 will net you some more money if you decide to sell it, since the 700 action is very popular.
     
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    rem model 7 youth.
     
  8. Steve Smith

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    Skunk! I can't believe you're saying the words "iron sights!" Wow!

    Ok, what KIND of irons do you want? This is important. Do you want something that is like an open leaf type, a rugged but somewhat coarse rear sight and a post, or do you want target sights? A lot of the questions that other's posts have brought up can be answered if you answer this question.


    Also, did you want a hunter style stock or a comp stock?
     
  9. Onslaught

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    Since I have a pretty good idea of your "taste" in firearms, I'm gonna have to second the Savage... But in a different flavor... (plastic :) )

    Savage 11F
    6.5#
    22" barrel (easily and inexpensively shortened)
    free-floating and button-rifled barrel,
    top loading internal box magazine,
    open sights.

    Comes with the excellent AccuTrigger.

    Suggested RETAIL is only $473!

    Unfortunately, the detachable mag version, the 11FC, isn't available in .223. I know you said you didn't care, but it's always nice.

    If you don't like the sights, Ashley Outdoors makes the ghost ring set specifically for the Savage.
     
  10. mark mcj

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    Without posting a purpose for the firearm, it's tough to get a good idea going. I think you might be looking for a rifle to practice with.

    """""""""""""""""""""IF""""""""""""""""""""""""" that's the idea, I have to ask if you have a .22 rimfire?

    If you have the time 3 or 4 days a week and about 45 minutes for each day, you could really elevate your skill level.

    I would suggest a larger caliber in a small, light weight rifle with open sights. To me, that suggest a close in rifle or over big hills and other stuff that leaves one sucking air and wanting a lighter rifle. Not to many critters I would chase in those situations with a .223.

    Give us some info Skunk!!!!!!!!!:)
     
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    Without knowing the job it's hard to recommend a tool for it.

    But for general purpose rifle the CZ carbine is hard to beat
     
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    What dakotasin said. Unless the price went up recently, Wally World used to stock the Remington Model 7 youth for about $450. If the length of pull is too short, you could add a longer recoil pad at nominal cost and still come in under budget.
     
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    You can wait for the lawrence ordinance .223 lee enfield to come out.
     
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    Steve Smith, I'll probably put my Trijicon 1.25-4x hunting scope on it simply becuase that's what I already have. The irons will merely be a backup if the scope goes TU.

    As for the purpose, a general purpose rifle with cheap ammo, similar to whatever role a lever-action is supposed to fill. I shoot other people's scoped .223s better than I shot my own .30s. Probably because I'm a wuss.
     
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    Not a bolt-action but - not interested in an SU-16?
     
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    Okay, now you've got my curiosity up.
    Any info on these? I've never hear of them but I've wanted an Enfield action for quite awhile.
     
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    Not sure why you dont think that Remington does not make a 700 ADL in 223. My buddy has one. Its synthetic but still shoots pretty damn good. Factory states its weight at 7and a quarter pounds, so they may be heavier than what you want.
     
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    Then in that case, the CZs and Rem ADLs are a good choice. If purchased with a wood stock, you can cut the stock down to fit you well. Make sure the sights are rugged sights, and will still give you some good accruacy. Something like the 1903 apertures would be great.
     
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    I seem to remember seeing a Rem 700 in 308 set up for a match with stripper clip guides. Might be something that could be done to a Rem 700 in 223, though, I doubt you can fit 10 in magazine.
     
  23. Steve Smith

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    Frohickey, they're usually built to hold 5 rounds. Quick reloads though!
     
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    Perhaps a remington 700 adl/bdl in .223 with an extended fixed magazine, stripper clip guide, and williams reciever sights would be the hot ticket.
     
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    Quick reloads? Huh?

    Yeah, stripper clips would make for reloading a bolt-action faster, but most stripper clips for 223 are the 10 round variety, with the stupid brass tab that usually breaks off, instead of the spring steel in the body of the stripper clip.

    I think the 5 round limit is because of hunting laws that limit amount of rounds in a gun.
     
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