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357 Maximum Rounds are huge!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Peter M. Eick, Aug 13, 2006.

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  1. Peter M. Eick

    Peter M. Eick Member

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    Wow, those are huge cases! 1.6 odd inches long is just plain huge! After loading 38 specials I set up the new dies for 357 Maximum and all of the dies except the sizer are near the limits of the threads. Pretty amazing how big these things are. I have not shot any yet, but I loaded up the starting load of H4227 with some 180's and 158's to try out what they can do. Actually handling the rounds it is a lot more like a 45-70 or 38-55 then a revolver round.

    I will try and get the Ruger Super BlackHawk out for its break in of "real" ammo next weekend and report what it can do. I am guessing my starting load should be right around 1700 for the 158 and around 1500 for the 180's.

    When I shot the SBH with my hottest 2400 loads and 158's it hit way low. I am expecting that with a bit more velocity we can get it up into the paper so I can see what the gun can do.

    So, I have to admit I am a bit "intimidated" by my newest toy. Any advice or suggestions on shooting a 357 Max revolver?
     
  2. steveno

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    I have only shot the 357 max in a TC super 14 and it is one heck of a round in a 14 barrel. I do remember that with some bullets you might have to trim the cases back to get a workable oal. the ruger didn't have as long a cylinder as the dan wesson
     
  3. Peter M. Eick

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    I was worried about that COL issue this morning so I pulled the cylinder and measured it. The total length is 2.000" so I could use the recommended 1.890 with no problem.

    I expect that these loads will be quite impressive on the range.

    Thanks!
     
  4. steveno

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    all 357 max loads are LOUD
     
  5. Heavy Barrel

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    Just enjoy it.

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  6. MCgunner

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    I always thought a carbine in that caliber would be pretty awesome.

    Is it really that bad about flame cutting??? I was really interested in the caliber. Ruger took the blackhawk off the market faster'n they introduced it. One day it was available, then BOOM, it's gone.
     
  7. Heavy Barrel

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    The cutting was minimal at best.Mine has over three thousand rounds.The cutting on mine is just visible.Maybe about .003 ".
     
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    Mine isn't a revolver but I gotta agree 357max is da bomb:D
     
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    I handled a Ruger .357 Max at the show today.
    It was dang near mint. And the $650 tag was the most reasonable price I've seen for one in a while.
     
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    I have one right now on hold at a local dealer. Supposed to be near mint w/ box and papers. Hopefully she passes inspection and comes home with me in a couple of days.
     
  12. Peter M. Eick

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    Well if I get lucky I can grab a couple of hours tomorrow and try out my new creations on the range. I have followed the Max since they came out back in the early 80's but never could afford one, or saw one. My Ruger SBH is the first one for sale I have ever personally handled so I immediately bought it.

    $650 with the box and paperwork is a good buy. I paid a bit less then that for mine but no papers or box. Mine could not have been shot more then a few cylinders full and appears to be all 38's when I cleaned it up.
     
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    Just hit me-wouldn't it be cool to have a Marlin 1894C reamed to .357 Max?
    Wonder if it would work, or maybe it doesn't have enough carrier throw.
    Cool idea though. Could fire all .357s & .38s.
    Best-MC
     
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    If you like impressive fireballs you will love the .357 maximum! :D
     
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    considering the the 357 max is rated at 50,000 cup I don't think that there is a lever action made that can handle the pressure even if there was enough stroke
     
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    I've never shot one, but I saw a fellow club member in Conover NC a few years ago use one at a silhoutte shoot, and it was putting them down! It was funny in that he had already sold it to a friend (and was regretting it slightly), but people kept asking him about buying it.
     
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    While we are on this subject. Does anyone EXCEPT remington make brass for this caliber?

    Tried e-mailing starline.....
    No response after 3 different emails:mad: (At least be polite enough to tell me no.)

    Nothing at midway etc.
     
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    at this time I think that remington is the only brass maker and they probably aren't making very much of it any more. I still have some winchester brass but I have had that for quite a few years. start checking gunshows
     
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    You can ream the chamber in a .357 mag NEF single shot barrel to .357 Max and shoot all three rounds out of the same barrel. Looks like that is what krochus did.
     
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    i still have some winchester 357 max from my contender but dont think they make it any more,i did see some in the cabelas catalog under obsolete ammo,
     
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    Considering that you can get a Model 92 in .454 Casull, I don't think pressure would be the problem. And the smaller diameter case and bore would leave you more steel than for the .454. But I agree with the previous person that a pistol caliber type of carbine probably just can't take a cartridge with this OAL. Don't know that for sure. But the pressure wouldn't be a problem for a Model 92!

    Gregg
     
  22. Dr.Rob

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    Federal made ammo for it, I still have a couple of boxes of factory ammo.
     
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    Starline doesn't make .357Max.
     
  24. Reed1911

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    We produce .357 Max ammo, as for flame cutting I believe it got the bad rep. from folks using full loads of powder behind a 125g bullet, I have never seen any evidence of it with revolvers that used 180+ bullets. The 200 and 205g cast bullets are a perfect match for the Max and do well for hunting and longer range shooting. Good cartridge.
     
  25. Heavy Barrel

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    This thread got me going again.After not shooting mine for about 4yrs,I put about 50rds through it yesterday.:D
     
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